Fingerprinting

[Cat Herder]

Why is it redone? Isn't it a permanent thing? any time someone on my list gets a conviction I get a notice of it...forever or until I remove them from my list or give up my license.

It does not say why. :confused: Maybe to keep them from having to subscribe to updates or pay for the scans?

"Must have a Satisfactory Fingerprint Records Check Determination on file, issued every 5 years."

[DaveA]

I'm in Illinois.

It's free.

I think it's anyone over 13 in the household, but it's been awhile since I had younger people in the house so that may have changed.

DCFS recently added a FBI background check to the mix as well.

When DS turned 13 he had to have a background check but doesn’t have to be printed till 16 or 17. I forget which.

If I remember it right in IL fingerprinting starts at 13 for anyone who moves into your house or is there when you start up.

[Blackcat31]

Here's the article that explains why providers are upset:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/10/27/minnesota-child-care-providers-balk-at-fingerprinting-their-kids/

[Cat Herder]

"For kids, when you get your fingers printed and your mug shot, you’re a criminal," says one parent.

Ok. :confused:

I had all the daycare kids do the McGruff photo and fingerprint kits as part of our safety month many times. I gave the completed ID cards to their parents as gifts. https://www.mcgruff-safe-kids.com/sh...e-kids-id-kit/ The kids loved it. The police visit in the classroom and the kids think they hung the moon.

One of my favorite field trips as a kid was to the police station. We should not be teaching kids to fear the police. Even my dog has a photo ID card from the vet.

[hwichlaz]

It does not say why. :confused: Maybe to keep them from having to subscribe to updates or pay for the scans?

"Must have a Satisfactory Fingerprint Records Check Determination on file, issued every 5 years."

ok, ours are issued yearly, but we only pay and get scanned the first year

[Claraskids]

"For kids, when you get your fingers printed and your mug shot, you’re a criminal," says one parent.

Ok. :confused:

I had all the daycare kids do the McGruff photo and fingerprint kits as part of our safety month many times. I gave the completed ID cards to their parents as gifts. https://www.mcgruff-safe-kids.com/sh...e-kids-id-kit/ The kids loved it. The police visit in the classroom and the kids think they hung the moon.

One of my favorite field trips as a kid was to the police station. We should not be teaching kids to fear the police. Even my dog has a photo ID card from the vet.

However, those fingerprints and photos are not kept on file with the government. They are just given to the parents. I did it with one of my own kids years ago. The fingerprinting that MN wants to do would give the state our children' fingerprints to keep on file. That is what we are not ok with!

Yes, I do teach my children and dickids to see police as friends and a source of protection. Government/big brother - that's a whole other story

[hwichlaz]

Since I can be paid to care for anyone under 18, it doesn't make sense to require fingerprinting and background checks to people who COULD be the child being cared for. I'm licesned for 0-12 but there's a provision for kids who need care beyond those ages. I had one boy stay with me from age 10-14 because he had ADD and his impulse control made staying home alone after school inappropriate.

[Mom2Two]

Utah, not free, not every year, everyone in household over 18.

It's a fairly new requirement. It includes FBI check. It's scary to think what happened that led up to this requirement. Daycare is such a fine line between requirements and run us all out of business with the low pay/long hours/high stress we do.

[Cat Herder]

I was/am ok with my kids prints on file.

If they were a victim of crime they would be identified faster. If they committed a crime, they'd be off the streets quicker. If they were accused of a crime they did not commit, they'd be cleared quicker. They would be less inclined to take the risk of committing a crime because they know they are on file and will be found.

I really don't see the problem with it. Then again, I am the daughter of a LEO and all this is just the normal flow to me.

[AmyKidsCo]

In WI fingerprinting is only required if you participate in the QRS system. There's talk of requiring it for all licensees though.

[e.j.]

I'm in MA. Anyone 15 years or older who is regularly on the premises has to be fingerprinted. My licensor told me we have to go through the fingerprinting process each time we re-license which is every 3 years. When I asked why we have to continue to be fingerprinted each time we re-license, she said "they" don't keep the information from background checks on file permanently. It costs $35 per person.

I guess what really bugs me about this regulation, besides the cost and possible invasion of privacy issue, is that it doesn't really make the kids in our care any safer. It's just an additional hoop I have to jump through - and pay for - because a small percentage of providers lacked intelligence and good judgement, failing to protect the children in their care from people who should not have had access to them.

If I were trying to hide the fact that a pedophile or felon were visiting my home on a regular basis, all I would have to do is leave that person's name off the list of those who need to have background checks done. My licensor visits once, maybe twice a year. She doesn't know who comes and goes on a regular basis. I'll bet those providers who have something to hide don't think twice about leaving questionable visitors off the background check list. So...how much safer are the kids really?

[MarinaVanessa]

I'm in CA. Anyone living in the household and/or employed in the house over the age of 18 must be fingerprinted according to licensing. if I were to have a housekeeper who came during daycare hours and she was over 18 I would have to take the kids outside while she cleaned the downstairs.

It cost me about $45-$55 per adult to have it done depending on where it was done. The Sheriff's was the least expensive for me.

For us it's a one-time thing that we have to do when we first get licensed.
Our check goes through the Department of Justice and the CA Child Abuse Central Index

[amberrose3dg]

Wv free but all household members over 18 and employees.

[MyAngels]

I was/am ok with my kids prints on file.

If they were a victim of crime they would be identified faster. If they committed a crime, they'd be off the streets quicker. If they were accused of a crime they did not commit, they'd be cleared quicker. They would be less inclined to take the risk of committing a crime because they know they are on file and will be found.

I really don't see the problem with it. Then again, I am the daughter of a LEO and all this is just the normal flow to me.

I agree with this. But I'm also not the type who worries about the government overreaching either, so it stands to reason I would feel this way

[Sunchimes]

We are a small home daycare in Texas. They started requiring it in 2016, and I believe we will have to do it every 2 years. I think it costs $48 each, or in that neighborhood. The biggest problem is that there aren't enough locations doing it. You can't just run down to the sheriff's office. There was just one place, and it was 40 miles away. I'm trying to remember if we did it in Saturday or had to take off to do it during the week. I was very creeped out about the whole thing. If I had other options for working, I would have shut down. I worked for the sheriff's office for almost 2 decades and never had to be fingerprinted. This just felt intrusive.