Do You Ever Get Involved In New DC Rule-Making?

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  • Mom2Two
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 1855

    Do You Ever Get Involved In New DC Rule-Making?

    I learned today that every five years, our rules get an overhaul. I wasn't around five years ago (just coming up on my five year mark), but apparently it's been happening.

    I've been getting emails inviting public comment, but I've kinda tuned it out, trusting that good decisions are being made without my comment.

    Now after my unannounced today, I'm rethinking. It's too late for public comment, but I'm still thinking to jump in with what I can--at least I'll learn something for next time--assuming I'm still in the game in five years. Eeeek!

    So does anyone else get involved in rule making? How has it gone? Do you like your admins?
  • AmyKidsCo
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 3786

    #2
    Anytime I'm asked to give my opinion on policy I give it. Food program changes, licensing rule updates, etc. I've been known to give my opinion when it wasn't asked for too. ::

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    • Mike
      starting daycare someday
      • Jan 2014
      • 2507

      #3
      I say jump in. Never hurts to have some input when it comes to something that involves you.
      Children are little angels, even when they are little devils.
      They are also our future.

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      • Mom2Two
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 1855

        #4
        Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
        Anytime I'm asked to give my opinion on policy I give it. Food program changes, licensing rule updates, etc. I've been known to give my opinion when it wasn't asked for too. ::


        Giving opinions...yeah I can usually come up with a few of those. :: :: ::

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        • Josiegirl
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 10834

          #5
          Haha nobody asks my opinion. I have plenty of them but it never seems to do any good.
          When our state was changing all it's regulations over a year ago, they told everybody to email, go to the state site and give opinions, go to meetings and talk, etc. Oh we were invited to tell what we thought of their rough draft of regs. Pages upon pages worth. What got changed? Pretty much nothing except wording for clarification in the new regs.

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          • DaveA
            Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
            • Jul 2014
            • 4245

            #6
            Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
            Anytime I'm asked to give my opinion on policy I give it. Food program changes, licensing rule updates, etc. I've been known to give my opinion when it wasn't asked for too. ::
            Yep. If you have the chance go for it.

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #7
              I have done it many, many times. A few of my ideas came to fruition, many were over looked.

              It can also become a "be careful what you wish for" situation, though. It puts you on the radar for those with wounded egos.
              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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              • midaycare
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 5658

                #8
                I have opinions In my experience, no one really wants them, they just want to collect the opinions of child care providers to say they do so. Checkmark a box and all that.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  I am a huge believer in advocating for your profession!

                  I belong to many organizations, committees, panels and associations.
                  All in different capacities but I feel all are beneficial and helpful for the profession in which I earn my living.

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                  • Mom2Two
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 1855

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cat Herder
                    I have done it many, many times. A few of my ideas came to fruition, many were over looked.

                    It can also become a "be careful what you wish for" situation, though. It puts you on the radar for those with wounded egos.
                    Oh no, sounds like a nightmare. Do you have a bad experience with this sort of thing happening?

                    Originally posted by midaycare
                    I have opinions In my experience, no one really wants them, they just want to collect the opinions of child care providers to say they do so. Checkmark a box and all that.
                    Ha, ha, cynical but I could see it happening. Our head admin also teaches classes and I think he's a great educator and 0-5 advocate. Hopefully it's not too bad!

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                    • MarinaVanessa
                      Family Childcare Home
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 7211

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
                      Anytime I'm asked to give my opinion on policy I give it. Food program changes, licensing rule updates, etc. I've been known to give my opinion when it wasn't asked for too. ::
                      Me too!! LOL


                      Give it when you can. Nothing will change if you don't.

                      A few years ago the local child care subsidy organization was paying very little for subsidized families and it stunk. Everything was going up in price except for the amount they were paying. They also don't cover absences, late payment fees even for the copays, late/early pickup/drop off fees and all of the other fees. I think back then they were paying $25/day when the rate was $35/day flat weekly rate and they wouldn't allow us to charge the families for what the program wouldn't cover.

                      We complained but they didn't make many changes and raised the rate by such a small amount that it was offensive. Like literally $1 or $2 more per day. So a bunch of us opted out and quit accepting people with vouchers and boycotted the program. So many in fact that they didn't have enough providers for all of the children they had enlisted.

                      They eventually raised the rate and now the rate is MUCH higher than even our fair going rate. Our going rate is now $200/week and they'll cover up to $250/week and will allow us to charge them for any fees and amounts that the program won't cover. They listened but only because we as providers did something about it.

                      So yes! Say something!!

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                      • Cat Herder
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 13744

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mom2Two
                        Oh no, sounds like a nightmare. Do you have a bad experience with this sort of thing happening?
                        Not too bad, but I had a few years behind me and a thicker skin at the time. If it had happened in my first few years, I probably would have been crushed and silenced.

                        I advocated for a broader choice of approved curriculum's than the complex and expensive ones my State pushes. Newer providers need time to learn what works for them without being overwhelmed and dissuaded. Being able to buy a less expensive, pre-packaged curriculum, with art supplies included, allows providers time and concrete resources to learn from. It allows them to see their DCK's start to engage and get excited. It helps motivate them to want to do more, learn more, plan purposely because they can better see the results for themselves. Intrinsic motivation instead of threats and judgements.

                        Some liked to keep it difficult as gate keeping or to puff up their own sense of self-importance. Without an approved curriculum you can' participate in QRIS. There was some push back and bad mouthing, but I did not care. The resources were never intended to be rewards for those who are already educated in ECE. They are intended to bring up the level of services of those who would not be able or interested in doing so otherwise otherwise.
                        - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cat Herder
                          s Without an approved curriculum you can' participate in QRIS.
                          That should say can't.
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #14
                            Yes! I am very active in my state, I go to all of the meetings and visit with my senators and reps on a regular basis. If we don't get have a voice, everyone assumes providers are fine with new rules. Some of the rules are needed an make sense, others do not, so I would become an advocate for things you are passionate about.

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