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    Pending Divorce For DCPs....Need Advice

    So I have these 2 long term parents/clients and they currently bring both of their kids to my daycare. I have always had a good relationship with both of them. These DCPs have been having marital issues since before the pregnancy of the second child (I don't know why they would have a second child, but I digress). Things have finally escalated and now it looks like they will be separating and eventually divorcing. There has been no abuse or cheating from either of them. They are both just a little weird, flaky and difficult with each other but pretty normal to me.

    We are in a VERY high cost of living area. She makes more money than him now, but that wasn't the case before. He was working as a (boots on the ground?) contractor overseas making a lot more money than he is now but she complained all the time about his absence for 2-3 months a pop so she made him quit. He was able to get a job here but for only $36k a year. Here's the reason for that info....

    At 36k a year, there's no way he can even really afford a 1 bedroom apartment on his own here plus child support. He is set to return from out of state new job training in 1 month. Due to their current income, they will have to most likely live together in the jointly owned house during the separation. She doesn't want him there even though he is entitled to be there. She's a bit weird, flaky and immature. For example, they got in a mild argument once and she took they kids to a furnished apartment complex, paid the $1200 for one month and then returned home 3 days later of her own accord like nothing happened and wasted $1200.

    So now, she's trying to do something similar except its going to directly affect me. She wants to empty their house of everything (while he's at work for training, out of state) and move to her folks house for just a month or two. Her parents are three hours away in the country. Supposedly her job has OKed this, but I have some doubts about that. Of course she does not want to pay for daycare during this time away (even though they can afford it) but then wants to come right on back after 1-2 months of pouting at her parents house. I can tell you the husband will be a lot less likely to pay his half of daycare while she's at her parent house out in the middle of nowhere, working from there all day with the kids.

    How exactly should I convey to her that she/they has to pay for the month or two she leaves and if she leaves and doesn't pay, she won't be welcomed back. I also want to express to her that she's risking losing care for her two kids over doing something really emotional and unwise (like she did before with the apartment). She's fairly picky over her DC accommodations so she won't be happy if she has to find a new place.
  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    So I have these 2 long term parents/clients and they currently bring both of their kids to my daycare. I have always had a good relationship with both of them. These DCPs have been having marital issues since before the pregnancy of the second child (I don't know why they would have a second child, but I digress). Things have finally escalated and now it looks like they will be separating and eventually divorcing. There has been no abuse or cheating from either of them. They are both just a little weird, flaky and difficult with each other but pretty normal to me.

    We are in a VERY high cost of living area. She makes more money than him now, but that wasn't the case before. He was working as a (boots on the ground?) contractor overseas making a lot more money than he is now but she complained all the time about his absence for 2-3 months a pop so she made him quit. He was able to get a job here but for only $36k a year. Here's the reason for that info....

    At 36k a year, there's no way he can even really afford a 1 bedroom apartment on his own here plus child support. He is set to return from out of state new job training in 1 month. Due to their current income, they will have to most likely live together in the jointly owned house during the separation. She doesn't want him there even though he is entitled to be there. She's a bit weird, flaky and immature. For example, they got in a mild argument once and she took they kids to a furnished apartment complex, paid the $1200 for one month and then returned home 3 days later of her own accord like nothing happened and wasted $1200.

    So now, she's trying to do something similar except its going to directly affect me. She wants to empty their house of everything (while he's at work for training, out of state) and move to her folks house for just a month or two. Her parents are three hours away in the country. Supposedly her job has OKed this, but I have some doubts about that. Of course she does not want to pay for daycare during this time away (even though they can afford it) but then wants to come right on back after 1-2 months of pouting at her parents house. I can tell you the husband will be a lot less likely to pay his half of daycare while she's at her parent house out in the middle of nowhere, working from there all day with the kids.

    How exactly should I convey to her that she/they has to pay for the month or two she leaves and if she leaves and doesn't pay, she won't be welcomed back. I also want to express to her that she's risking losing care for her two kids over doing something really emotional and unwise (like she did before with the apartment). She's fairly picky over her DC accommodations so she won't be happy if she has to find a new place.


    That's not your problem.

    I tell parents that when they leave, that's it. Their space is gone. There is no way I would hold a spot for a month or two without pay. She either pays for her spot or she loses it.

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    • Unregistered

      #3
      Originally posted by sharlan
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      That's not your problem.

      I tell parents that when they leave, that's it. Their space is gone. There is no way I would hold a spot for a month or two without pay. She either pays for her spot or she loses it.
      Yeah...I bet she's doubting how quickly I can fill two spots and thinks that they will be open by the time she comes back. So of course I'd let her come back rather than have them empty.

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      • laundrymom
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 4177

        #4
        "As much as I enjoy having your kids here, I understand your position and will respect your decision if you need to pull them. In this economy I am not able to hold two spots without tuition. It's really unfair to ask me to"

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        • daycarediva
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 11698

          #5
          I would tell her that her choices cannot affect your income, and that while you love her children you WILL NOT accept them back into care should she return and want to re enroll, even if the spaces are available. That you need steady, reliable income to be able to pay your own bills and child care overhead.

          NO WAY would I allow anyone to do this to me and accept them back.

          SO, she would either continue to pay for their spaces or withdraw them from care KNOWING up front they could not return.

          I would advertise NOW, too.

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          • rosieteddy
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 1272

            #6
            I would just tell her no.No you can not save spots.If you can not fill spots I would let her come back but rates would increase.She should pay for the spots regardless of attendance.

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            • Unregistered

              #7
              Originally posted by daycarediva
              I would tell her that her choices cannot affect your income, and that while you love her children you WILL NOT accept them back into care should she return and want to re enroll, even if the spaces are available. That you need steady, reliable income to be able to pay your own bills and child care overhead.

              NO WAY would I allow anyone to do this to me and accept them back.

              SO, she would either continue to pay for their spaces or withdraw them from care KNOWING up front they could not return.

              I would advertise NOW, too.
              I like this a lot. It expresses what I was thinking. Why should I suffer because she wants to be bratty and go on a bender for a month or two?

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              • Ariana
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 8969

                #8
                He won't need to pay child support if he has 50/50 custody and if she makes more she will have to pay him alimony.

                Just wanted to throw that out there. They need a mediator and fast. This will not end well for her.

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #9
                  Like Ariana said he won't necessarily have to pay child support if he files quick, gets back in his home until divorce is final and requests a 50/50 parenting time arrangement before settling finances.

                  The higher income earner is typically the payor of child support. Sex has no bearing in that.
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • Unregistered

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ariana
                    He won't need to pay child support if he has 50/50 custody and if she makes more she will have to pay him alimony.

                    Just wanted to throw that out there. They need a mediator and fast. This will not end well for her.
                    They don't have anything worked out formally yet. They both have lawyers so a separation agreement should be forthcoming. He used to make 6 figures as a contractor so not sure he could get alimony. No abuse, no cheating, just a lot of resentment from both of them (they both tell me quite a bit at pick up).

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                    • Cat Herder
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 13744

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered
                      They don't have anything worked out formally yet. They both have lawyers so a separation agreement should be forthcoming. He used to make 6 figures as a contractor so not sure he could get alimony. No abuse, no cheating, just a lot of resentment from both of them (they both tell me quite a bit at pick up).
                      That wont matter. "He left his job to save the marriage" is what a lawyer will say, "at her request". They will go by what he earns, now. SAHM's do it all the time.

                      You need to stop them both from telling you anything further other than about the kids. Daycare business only or things are going to get ugly at your house.
                      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                      • midaycare
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 5658

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cat Herder
                        That wont matter. "He left his job to save the marriage" is what a lawyer will say, "at her request". They will go by what he earns, now. SAHM's do it all the time.

                        You need to stop them both from telling you anything further other than about the kids. Daycare business only or things are going to get ugly at your house.

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                        • Max
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 447

                          #13
                          I think most (if not all) of the DCP's personal info isn't of importance (IMO). I agree with PP to have them leave you out of things.

                          She wants to have her spot held without paying and you don't want to lose the income. I agree with others to let her know she has to pay or you can't guarantee the spots will be available when she gets back. Send reminders to both parents. Avoid communicating with one parent unless you all come to an agreement that one parent will handle daycare. Remind them of your policies for withdrawing. If they abide by all of them, then I see no reason for not allowing them back if the spaces are still available and you want to fill them (provided their aren't other issues with these parents that negatively effect your daycare).

                          It's a business, people come and go and as long as policies are followed, I'd allow back. But I'd also be trying to fill it as soon as they give notice

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                          • Unregistered

                            #14
                            I've told them both I don't want to be in the middle of their stuff so that has already been taken care of.

                            If she leaves, I'm not going to allow her to come back even if the spots are not filled. If she's willing to make my business suffer for her whim why would I allow her back? Chances are she will repeat the same behavior in the near future.

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                            • midaycare
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 5658

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              I've told them both I don't want to be in the middle of their stuff so that has already been taken care of.

                              If she leaves, I'm not going to allow her to come back even if the spots are not filled. If she's willing to make my business suffer for her whim why would I allow her back? Chances are she will repeat the same behavior in the near future.
                              Yes! That's the perfect way to look at this.

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