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  • amberrose3dg
    Daycare.com Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 1343

    #16
    Just a little update. I insisted on them catching up on the money owed last week they were up 750. They asked if they could pay 500 and pay rest this week. So last night I reminded them they have to pay the other 500. 250 from last week and 250 this week. Her husband texts about days kids weren't there or days I sent him home early for behavior issues. The only day they didn't come was 4th of July which is paid first of all. Secondly you expect not to pay for a day i sent home for on serious behavior issues. He was still here almost 4 hours. So this morning no call no show. I call mom and she rejects my call. Text and ask if kids are coming and she simply says nope.
    So I guess they are now not paying me for time I put in and definitely not for two weeks notice. Lesson learned I will never be nice to another family no matter their circumstances. I will also report it to their case worker when I get back from vacation. I also hope they don't think they are showing up when I get back from vacation.

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    • amberrose3dg
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 1343

      #17
      Looks like they just plan on not paying. I will never be nice and bend my policies for anyone ever again. Foster kids or not. I am back from vacation and typing up a letter with late fees due. I will also be contacting their case manager and letting her know they owe a balance and refuse to pay. At least I can file something in court here. In our county you get a judgement they can attach it to your personal property. If they never pay up it will collect interest and then I will get the money when they sell their home.

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      • EntropyControlSpecialist
        Embracing the chaos.
        • Mar 2012
        • 7466

        #18
        Originally posted by amberrose3dg
        Just a little update. I insisted on them catching up on the money owed last week they were up 750. They asked if they could pay 500 and pay rest this week. So last night I reminded them they have to pay the other 500. 250 from last week and 250 this week. Her husband texts about days kids weren't there or days I sent him home early for behavior issues. The only day they didn't come was 4th of July which is paid first of all. Secondly you expect not to pay for a day i sent home for on serious behavior issues. He was still here almost 4 hours. So this morning no call no show. I call mom and she rejects my call. Text and ask if kids are coming and she simply says nope.
        So I guess they are now not paying me for time I put in and definitely not for two weeks notice. Lesson learned I will never be nice to another family no matter their circumstances. I will also report it to their case worker when I get back from vacation. I also hope they don't think they are showing up when I get back from vacation.
        You CAN be nice but that doesn't mean you need to sacrifice your business/your family's livelihood for another person. Being nice doesn't equal taking a financial hit. :hug: :hug: :hug:

        So sorry to read this. Hopefully with you filing the money you are owed, and earned, will be given to you quickly.

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        • amberrose3dg
          Daycare.com Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 1343

          #19
          I don't understand their justification of not paying their daycare bill. I just meant when it comes to things like paying up front etc.. If I don't enforce it this will most likely happen again.

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          • daycare
            Advanced Daycare.com *********
            • Feb 2011
            • 16259

            #20
            Originally posted by amberrose3dg
            I don't understand their justification of not paying their daycare bill. I just meant when it comes to things like paying up front etc.. If I don't enforce it this will most likely happen again.
            Just to CYA, i would send them a nice email and just ask them to make it clear that they are not coming back and how they intent to pay the remaining balance owed. I would also let them know that failure to communicate with you for a 72-hour time frame, you will consider their contract fully terminated of all services.

            this way you have something to show their case worker that you tried and that also shows that they took off on their outstanding bill.

            I don't know how foster care works, but isn't it fully payed for by the state?

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #21
              Originally posted by daycare

              I don't know how foster care works, but isn't it fully payed for by the state?
              This was my question as well. I've cared for foster kids before and all of them had their child care costs completely covered by the state.

              I wonder if your best avenue is to contact the agency and at the very least ask about foster care and child care payments. You never know. The family could have been paid for the care by the agency/state but then not passed the money onto you.

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              • Ariana
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 8969

                #22
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                This was my question as well. I've cared for foster kids before and all of them had their child care costs completely covered by the state.

                I wonder if your best avenue is to contact the agency and at the very least ask about foster care and child care payments. You never know. The family could have been paid for the care by the agency/state but then not passed the money onto you.
                This is what I am thinking too. You might have happened upon a scam and they are not happy about it.

                Poor kid

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                • Alwaysgreener
                  Home Child Care Provider
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2519

                  #23
                  Originally posted by daycare
                  I don't know how foster care works, but isn't it fully payed for by the state?
                  She comments about this in her opening post.

                  She said The state won't pay for it because she has free daycare through americorp and they won't pay me cause it has to be an approved daycare that is 20 miles away.

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 284878
                    She comments about this in her opening post.

                    She said The state won't pay for it because she has free daycare through americorp and they won't pay me cause it has to be an approved daycare that is 20 miles away.
                    I missed that part. so that means since they chose her program that is not coverd they are required to cover the out of pocket expense.

                    i would still make contact. the family is not doing whats necessary to meet the child's needs by not cooperating with the contract of the childcare program

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #25
                      Originally posted by daycare
                      I missed that part. so that means since they chose her program that is not coverd they are required to cover the out of pocket expense.

                      i would still make contact. the family is not doing whats necessary to meet the child's needs by not cooperating with the contract of the childcare program
                      I missed that as well.

                      I guess I would pursue the debt anyways...small claims, conciliation court, credit bureau etc...

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                      • daycare
                        Advanced Daycare.com *********
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31
                        I missed that as well.

                        I guess I would pursue the debt anyways...small claims, conciliation court, credit bureau etc...
                        I miss everything. I have horrible reading comprehension skills.. thank goodness I teach preschool

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                        • amberrose3dg
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 1343

                          #27
                          I plan to send both her and her husband an email about the funds not paid. She did text me a "nope" when I asked if they were coming back. Our county will put a lien on your personal property if you receive a judgement. The sad thing is they are turning a small amount of money into a much larger amount.(late fees, interest etc..) They knew how much the daycare was and said they were fine paying it. They NEVER paid on time not once. They never even brought up payment. She took on a second foster kid and asked me for a spot for her for summer. I was crystal clear what summer rates were and was already giving them my lower rate as it was. They said they were fine paying the rate. I did not let it get out of hand like they pulled during the school year with the ONE kid. Now they have TWO kids here and are not paying. They have the money they just choose not to spend it on the kids(his shoes were too small, old clothes, long sleeves in summer, no shorts). The thing is they want to adopt these children. I guess they will expect free service every where they take them. The only good thing I can say about all of this is at least I will have a smoother summer. Both of the kids have major behavior issues. The 3 year old has been sent home for punching my son and hitting another girl in the eye with an ipad. The 11 year old lies just to lie. They also don't feel they should be pay for shorter days because of his behavior. At the end of the day I truly feel sorry for the kids and that is why I put up with so much "abuse".

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