Dry Diaper At Change

[happymom]

If a one year old is starting to keep his diapers dry between changes, is it appropriate for the parent to ask that they let him attempt to use the toilet at diaper changes?

What is your protocol when it comes to several dry diapers in a day?

[Ariana]

What do you mean dry between diaper changes? He pees only when being changed? I am confused.

Toilet training does not begin here until a child can ask to go to the bathroom and is able to go themselves.

[happymom]

They change every 2 hours, and his diapers are dry when it is changing time. Yesterday, all day, he only had one diaper change.

[Ariana]

They change every 2 hours, and his diapers are dry when it is changing time. Yesterday, all day, he only had one diaper change.

So he urinated once in 8 hours? does he only pee in the toilet with you?

[happymom]

They have a form that they gave me stating that they would start practicing with him on the potty at 18 months, and I know they took him once - because they told me he went pee in the potty and they started a sticker chart for him.

But I have no idea what is happening and no one can tell me.

[Pestle]

When he is with you, how often is he urinating? That sounds like dehydration if it's just once a day.

[happymom]

He was only in care for 7 hours that day. With me he is peeing more often than that.

I toilet him at transitional times, before meals, before bath, before bed, upon waking. He never does full pees in the toilet, just tiny ones. He wears cloth diapers, so part of me wonders if they are misinterpreting wet diapers at being dry. He's not peeing through them though (otherwise his pants would be wet).

[Leigh]

If a one year old is starting to keep his diapers dry between changes, is it appropriate for the parent to ask that they let him attempt to use the toilet at diaper changes?

What is your protocol when it comes to several dry diapers in a day?

I wouldn't consider working on potty training at daycare for a 1 year old. I'd just tell the parent no.

If he's dry between changes, I think they're not giving him enough fluids at daycare.

[happymom]

Ok perfect!

I potty trained my first kid too early, but got excited by what he was showing me he is capable of at home (climbing on the toilet himself and eliminating right away).

I will wait until he's in the two year old room to put in the work and try to actually potty train him and just continue doing elimination communication with him at home to hopefully train him easier when the time comes.

[Leigh]

Ok perfect!

I potty trained my first kid too early, but got excited by what he was showing me he is capable of at home (climbing on the toilet himself and eliminating right away).

I will wait until he's in the two year old room to put in the work and try to actually potty train him and just continue doing elimination communication with him at home to hopefully train him easier when the time comes.

This is why I don't encourage early potty training (this and the fact that it often just frustrates child and parent when the child is not ready)

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/2015/05/are-you-potty-training-too-soon/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-hodges-md/potty-training_b_1424826.html

I had a child before who was a "chronic holder", and at age 5.5, he's still having issues with blockages. He didn't train until he was nearly 5, and he used pooping as a means of control (it wasn't pretty).

I have one now who started training at 2 years old, and he's now 6 weeks from 3 and still not trained, though he IS pooping and peeing in inappropriate places (the floor), plays with poop, and, like the other child, uses elimination as a means of control over his body, his parents, and his situation. He often poops in his sleep (I assume his body can't handle holding it any longer, so when he relaxes, out it comes).

I know that many don't agree with me, but I firmly believe that kids will train when THEY are ready, and when that happens, it is EASY. My son trained at 3.5. He put on underwear and that was that. NEVER had an accident. There was no frustration. He simply went from diapers to underwear and used the toilet from that moment forward. After my son trained, his friend at daycare (just turned 3) was so proud of him, so my son told him that he'd "teach him how to get potty trained". My son took him to the bathroom a few times, and that child started using the toilet, too. Again, no accidents, because HE was ready.

[Ariana]

Ok perfect!

I potty trained my first kid too early, but got excited by what he was showing me he is capable of at home (climbing on the toilet himself and eliminating right away).

I will wait until he's in the two year old room to put in the work and try to actually potty train him and just continue doing elimination communication with him at home to hopefully train him easier when the time comes.

Most infant rooms do not have bathroom breaks built in so what you are asking for is special treatment for your son which often cannot work in group care. Early potty training is great for the stay at home mom.

Did he really start using the toilet all on his own? This might be creating a bad situation for your child because he is now holding his urine. This is what concerns me the most. He seems to have the idea that it is not ok to go in his diaper and is getting mixed messages which may end up shooting you in the foot in the end. Personally I would stop all "elimination communication" and let him go in his diaper so he has a better time at daycare. The consistency is very important for emotional wellbeing.

[happymom]

http://www.jamieglowacki.com/my-rebuttal-to-dr-hodges/

My first son was trained shortly after 2 (started at 21 months), he is 5, doesn't wet the bed and doesn't have accidents or other bathroom issues. There were bumps in the road, sure, but I don't agree with making a child sit in their own urine until they are 3.5 just to make potty training easier.

Kids would learn a lot of things easier later in life. A 10 year old could probably learn to tie their shoes in 3 minutes, but does that mean I should tie his shoes for him until he's 10?

And no, he only goes on his own if I remove his diaper and tell him it's time to go. Then he happily climbs up and goes. Sometimes he will say he has to poop, but normally he will do his poop face and I will take him to the toilet to go poop. For pee, he squeezes what he can out onto the toilet every time I tell him it's time to go, but he doesn't communicate with me that he has to go.

He's still going through a lot of diapers, every diaper I change is wet, which makes me think that perhaps daycare THOUGHT his diapers were dry and therefore skipped a change, even if it may have been wet (sometimes with cloth it's hard to tell if you don't know what to look for).

[happymom]

I am not looking for special treatment. They sent home a potty training page that says they start toileting kids at 18 months so they can get used to it in daycare....

I think they just aren't doing it.

[Blackcat31]

Is your son 1 yrs old as in a NEW 1 yr old or is he closer to 2 yrs old?

I don't know, I don't do extra steps for potty training as I am 1 person doing group care but I understand what you mean about cloth diapering....I DO think kids in cloth recognize the need to urinate long before kids in diapers do. I think they know the feeling of "wet" and "not wet" much earlier than disposable wearers.

I've had multiple cloth diapered kids over the last 4 years and I can say with certainty that all of them trained earlier and easier than those using disposables. About half were boys.

I feel I am still a newbie when it comes to cloth diapers but I have noticed a difference in how cloth diapered kids feel/think/behave in regards to toileting in comparison to disposable wearing kids. (I am still in the observations and fact gathering stages...!)

I am also in the school of waiting until a child is ready (your example of tying shoes at 10 is a valid one) however......as group care I just can't do what I would do if I were the parent.

I don't have the time, the hands or the eyes to do it as one (even 2 people) but I am curious how many staff people they do have in your son's room? How many kids and what ages?

[Snowmom]

If a one year old is starting to keep his diapers dry between changes, is it appropriate for the parent to ask that they let him attempt to use the toilet at diaper changes?

What is your protocol when it comes to several dry diapers in a day?

Every center and in-home provider has different policies, so the "right" answer would be: whatever their PT policy states is what you should expect.

If it were me personally: I would tell the parent that I do not start PT in daycare until ALL the signs of readiness are present. Which includes being able to communicate the need to go and be able to independently dress/undress while using the toilet (supervised- but minimal help).

IMHO, PT for children that young CAN be done, but due to the level of difficulty for the child (communicating, dressing, balancing, proper wiping & hand washing), it should not be on the provider's time.