I Feel Guilty, But She Was Passive Aggressive And Didn't Trust Me

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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #16
    Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
    I love this. I need to find a nice way to word it in my policies, LOL! "If you do not pay on time, show up on time, or communicate on time, caring for your child will become your problem, not mine." ::::::
    Poetry! Add that to the list of provider skills! ::

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    • spedmommy4
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 935

      #17
      Originally posted by Sahmmie
      I did already tell her to find alternative care and not come back at all which is what I feel guilty about. I don't like leaving people high and dry, but she would not relent and kept on pressing the idea that I had betrayed her trust by taking her baby out of the house without her permission. I felt like if I hung in there for two more weeks she'd possibly start making false accusations because she seemed to be so volatile about the whole thing.
      I know how hard terming is but, I think you made the right call.

      You might consider adding a walking or general field trip consent form to your parent enrollment packet too. (One that parents must sign) This way, a parent could not say you didn't go over it when they signed up.

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      • Pepperth
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 682

        #18
        Originally posted by spedmommy4
        I know how hard terming is but, I think you made the right call.

        You might consider adding a walking or general field trip consent form to your parent enrollment packet too. (One that parents must sign) This way, a parent could not say you didn't go over it when they signed up.
        I do this. We rarely use it, but there's no arguing that you didn't cover it when their signature is right there.

        I think with having so few kids enrolled, she's very fortunate that you were willing to accept part time pay. She might find it very difficult to find that again.

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        • Pestle
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2016
          • 1729

          #19
          You had a phone and were available. . . and you were taking her child outside. That's what parents want. Good grief. Sorry it happened to you--it's going to feel so good in a few months when she's long-gone and you've filled the space with a family that's easy to work with.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Originally posted by Sahmmie
            Two months ago I took the baby for a walk
            Originally posted by Sahmmie
            she would not relent and kept on pressing the idea that I had betrayed her trust by taking her baby out of the house without her permission.
            TWO months ago??
            But she's been bringing baby ever since and has not tried to discuss this "betrayal of trust" until money was mentioned?

            Yeah, her actions don't match her words. Nice try DCM.

            Originally posted by Sahmmie
            I felt like if I hung in there for two more weeks she'd possibly start making false accusations because she seemed to be so volatile about the whole thing.
            Unfortunately, I would not dismiss this thought.
            She IS already making accusations and now that she is without care, she will probably continue doing so.

            If I were you, I'd e-mail my analyst/licensor and let them know what happened BEFORE the DCM calls and give her version.

            Originally posted by Sahmmie
            A few minutes later she texted back "And if baby is leaving your house I need to be asked. We leave the carseat for emergencies only."
            Do you have anything in your paperwork stating you DO have permission to leave with baby in seat or to transport at all?

            IIRC, most states require permission to transport. I know you weren't driving or using the car seat but I am just covering all bases so wondering if you DO or DO NOT have written permission in regards to transporting....

            I do NOT transport. Ever. Because of that, I do not allow parents to leave car seats on my property. It opens up n entire chapter in regards to liability so I don't let parents leave them on my property for ANY reason.

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            • Ariana
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 8969

              #21
              I get signed/written permission to leave my property for walks to the park. On my parent agreement form I have a little blurb that states "By signing this agreement I also give permission for my child to leave daycare property for walks or for outings to the park".

              On the rare occassion where I have transported a child in my car I get a seperate permission form for vehicle transport. You can never be too careful!

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              • Sahmmie
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2017
                • 19

                #22
                Thanks for all of your replies and advice. I feel much better about my decision. I do miss the baby and feel bad that she may not get the care she got here (small daycare and lots of TLC), but I have to protect myself and my own family.

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #23
                  She is not much of a poker player. She showed you her "vindictive plan to get out of paying" card too soon.

                  Sadly, she will be better at the game with her next provider.
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • Sahmmie
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Cat Herder
                    She is not much of a poker player. She showed you her "vindictive plan to get out of paying" card too soon.

                    Sadly, she will be better at the game with her next provider.

                    True. But most providers around here are better prepared and have a written contract and ask for a deposit. I am just a stay at home mom who watches a few kids for friends, and friends of friends. This lady was referred to me so I thought I could trust her, but wow was I wrong.

                    In any case, she screwed herself over because she will probably have to pay full time now because she needs someone anywhere from 2-8 hours every day of the week.

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                    • daycarediva
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 11698

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      TWO months ago??
                      But she's been bringing baby ever since and has not tried to discuss this "betrayal of trust" until money was mentioned?

                      Yeah, her actions don't match her words. Nice try DCM.



                      Unfortunately, I would not dismiss this thought.
                      She IS already making accusations and now that she is without care, she will probably continue doing so.

                      If I were you, I'd e-mail my analyst/licensor and let them know what happened BEFORE the DCM calls and give her version.



                      Do you have anything in your paperwork stating you DO have permission to leave with baby in seat or to transport at all?

                      IIRC, most states require permission to transport. I know you weren't driving or using the car seat but I am just covering all bases so wondering if you DO or DO NOT have written permission in regards to transporting....

                      I do NOT transport. Ever. Because of that, I do not allow parents to leave car seats on my property. It opens up n entire chapter in regards to liability so I don't let parents leave them on my property for ANY reason.


                      GET a contract, GET a deposit, GET a permission slip. It covers your butt. I don't care if I had one child in care of 20, I would have the same paperwork.

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                      • Laurie
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 94

                        #26
                        From my 24yrs of experience, NEVER expect anything from a client and have EVERYTHING in writing and signed. Sadly, I learned this lesson the hard way many years ago. There's a lot of DCM's who will gladly take advantage of you and your kindness. I hate to say that, but it's very true!!

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                        • Ariana
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 8969

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Sahmmie
                          True. But most providers around here are better prepared and have a written contract and ask for a deposit. I am just a stay at home mom who watches a few kids for friends, and friends of friends. This lady was referred to me so I thought I could trust her, but wow was I wrong.

                          In any case, she screwed herself over because she will probably have to pay full time now because she needs someone anywhere from 2-8 hours every day of the week.
                          Most of us start out as the stay at home mom who watches a few kids for friends....then something like this happens and we realize how important it is to cover your butt and not trust anyone.

                          People like her start out the way she is too and was looking for someone to be her employee. She will learn hard and fast that most providers do not play her game. Next time you will be able to spot someone like her a mile away! Experience is everything when it comes to dealing with parents. You also might want to read Nannyde's book about parents. So true! I started out trying to please parents and came to realize most of them do not deserve my time.

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                          • Sahmmie
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19

                            #28
                            Yeah, I am naive to a fault. Ha-ha. I'm not sure how long I am going to do this daycare thing anyway, but I would be interested in that book. What is the title and where do I get it? Thanks!

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                            • EntropyControlSpecialist
                              Embracing the chaos.
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 7466

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ariana
                              You did not do anything wrong! That woman is a psycho. Next time someone signs up with you get 2 weeks advance payment that you will put towards the last 2 weeks of care. That way if they skip out on payment you have their money.
                              Yes, please do this because there are so many crazy families out there. In the past 5 years I seem to have taken on 1-5 of those kinds of families per year. I finally have a trial period in place BUT before that the enrollment fee (word it as an enrollment fee to be applied to the final two weeks should a two week notice be given. *NONREFUNDABLE*) saved my bottom so many times.

                              You did nothing wrong. Of course you take the child outside into fresh air. Most states REQUIRE you to do so and why would you always want to be trapped in your backyard? You'll likely never run across another parent saying anything negative about what you did.

                              And yes. Of course you addressed payment issues when they weren't paying. You can't just go to the gym without paying for your membership.

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                              • Ariana
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 8969

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Sahmmie
                                Yeah, I am naive to a fault. Ha-ha. I'm not sure how long I am going to do this daycare thing anyway, but I would be interested in that book. What is the title and where do I get it? Thanks!

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