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  • EntropyControlSpecialist
    Embracing the chaos.
    • Mar 2012
    • 7466

    #16
    I AM on the food program, live in the south, and in my state (could be the same everywhere? can't imagine it not being?) you can get a note from the Doctor stating, "Please give Susan water in place of milk."
    No allergy reason needed, simply a Doctor's note.

    I wonder if a parent note would work as well. The parents who have done this have always had their Doctor do so. My own daughter isn't enrolled in the food program so I don't have a note in her file. Cow's milk is quite gross to me. I just don't give her cow's milk.

    I'll ask my food program sponsor when she's here next month.

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    • Pestle
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2016
      • 1729

      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered
      Unless their is a weight gaining issue, formula is no longer needed. It also states on the container up to 12 months. Research shows continued use of bottle and formula can lead to childhood obesity.
      And if you were the parent, that would be your choice. Every 12mo I've had is still being weaned and I support that. I sent my own child to day care with breast milk until she was 18 months and I would have immediately pulled her from a care provider who took it upon themselves to wean my child.

      Originally posted by Unregistered
      My son was done with bottle at 10 months and formula at 11 months. He had most of his teeth already and ate the same full meals I ate. So it was so longer needed. He was in the 95th percentile, he did not need the extra fat from formula.
      Well congratulations on having such an impressive child. Not all kids are on that same track--in fact, 95% of them arent.

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      • Unregistered

        #18
        Originally posted by Pestle
        And if you were the parent, that would be your choice. Every 12mo I've had is still being weaned and I support that. I sent my own child to day care with breast milk until she was 18 months and I would have immediately pulled her from a care provider who took it upon themselves to wean my child.



        Well congratulations on having such an impressive child. Not all kids are on that same track--in fact, 95% of them arent.
        Wondering why you are so upset...this is how I, and many other daycare providers and centers, run their program. If the parents didnt like it, then they wouldnt have signed the contract. What you do in your home with your child is your business, in my home its my business.
        Sheesh...

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        • LostMyMarbles
          LostMyMarbles
          • Jul 2016
          • 395

          #19
          You are not on the good program , I wouldn't worry about it. There are many ways to serve a balanced meal. I'm sure you will do your best.

          Have you thought about joining the food program.? If you are all about the balanced thing, you are already meeting food program regulation anyways. It won't be a major change for you and the reimbursement, no matter the size, helps.

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          • daycarediva
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 11698

            #20
            I also offered breastmilk (in a sippy cup) well beyond a year. I didn't have big kids (under the growth chart, but eating great), and the pedi said it was great for them.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #21
              Originally posted by daycarediva
              I also offered breastmilk (in a sippy cup) well beyond a year. I didn't have big kids (under the growth chart, but eating great), and the pedi said it was great for them.
              I have 2 DCK's that drink breastmilk.
              One is 2 yrs old and the other is a new 4.
              Both drink from a cup and no longer nurse.
              Mom brings a week supply on Monday each week.

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              • EntropyControlSpecialist
                Embracing the chaos.
                • Mar 2012
                • 7466

                #22
                Originally posted by Pestle
                And if you were the parent, that would be your choice. Every 12mo I've had is still being weaned and I support that. I sent my own child to day care with breast milk until she was 18 months and I would have immediately pulled her from a care provider who took it upon themselves to wean my child.



                Well congratulations on having such an impressive child. Not all kids are on that same track--in fact, 95% of them arent.
                I can't imagine a provider ever taking away breastmilk from an infant or a toddler. A young child could just never be truly "FAT" off of breastmilk. It's so beneficial and the World Health Organization recommends it until at least age 2.

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                • Unregistered

                  #23
                  One and done is the rule at my daycare. Parents can feed how they want at home. Daycare is one and done. I don't like handling breast milk and it's easer to pour milk in to a cup than to mix formula. Doctors here say cows milk one week after the child's first birthday. So unless there is a note from the doctor saying child needs to be on breast milk or formula past 1 yr the one and done rule applies! I have a 3 year old who still gets breast milk at home straight from the tap! Here they drink regular milk out of a cup.

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                  • EntropyControlSpecialist
                    Embracing the chaos.
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 7466

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    I have 2 DCK's that drink breastmilk.
                    One is 2 yrs old and the other is a new 4.
                    Both drink from a cup and no longer nurse.
                    Mom brings a week supply on Monday each week.
                    I love that you're supportive of that, even if it's different from how you would have done things (or not).

                    Once I'm able to breastfeed again I'll be putting breastmilk in my daughter's cup. She'll be 4 at the time.

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                    • EntropyControlSpecialist
                      Embracing the chaos.
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7466

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered
                      One and done is the rule at my daycare. Parents can feed how they want at home. Daycare is one and done. I don't like handling breast milk and it's easer to pour milk in to a cup than to mix formula. Doctors here say cows milk one week after the child's first birthday. So unless there is a note from the doctor saying child needs to be on breast milk or formula past 1 yr the one and done rule applies! I have a 3 year old who still gets breast milk at home straight from the tap! Here they drink regular milk out of a cup.
                      Do you live in the Unites States? I feel like ya do. Breastfeeding to age 3 (or later) is completely normal in other parts of the world. The US is really weird with the time constraints they place on the "appropriateness" of breastfeeding.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        One and done is the rule at my daycare. Parents can feed how they want at home. Daycare is one and done. I don't like handling breast milk and it's easer to pour milk in to a cup than to mix formula. Doctors here say cows milk one week after the child's first birthday. So unless there is a note from the doctor saying child needs to be on breast milk or formula past 1 yr the one and done rule applies! I have a 3 year old who still gets breast milk at home straight from the tap! Here they drink regular milk out of a cup.
                        What do you mean by that? :confused:

                        I don't handle it any different than I do milk or water.
                        I'm not playing with it or spilling it on myself so not sure how one "handles" breast milk differently than cow's milk.

                        Most the food programs don't a Dr to write a note supporting breast milk beyond age 1, it's simply acceptable (because it IS better for them) and in some states, licensing laws require you to observe the parent's wishes concerning breast milk.

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                        • Unregistered

                          #27
                          Breast milk is a different story. Im simply talking about getting rid of formula after 1 year. It doesnt seem like a huge deal to replace it with regular whole milk. If they want to bring breast milk in containers that is fine. Unfortunately, none of the parents I have breastfed their kids.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #28
                            I think what she means by handling breast milk differently is that it is a bodily fluid and you need to treat it as such. So wear gloves and keep it in a seperate area/container in the fridge away from other food. At least that is what I was told...
                            When it comes in those bags it can get messy. When I pumped for my son I hated those things.

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                            • Blackcat31
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 36124

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              I think what she means by handling breast milk differently is that it is a bodily fluid and you need to treat it as such. So wear gloves and keep it in a seperate area/container in the fridge away from other food. At least that is what I was told...
                              When it comes in those bags it can get messy. When I pumped for my son I hated those things.
                              Breast milk requires no additional safety measures for handling than formula or milk.

                              Gloves are not required to be worn when handling breast milk. Just wash your hands before and after.


                              USDA Food Program rules for handling and storage begin on page 17

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                              • Kimskiddos
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 420

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                                Totally off topic but I think it's odd that people use that (bolded) as an example or in support of not drinking cow's milk. Technically no other mammals can do what humans do so.... ::

                                I don't drink milk myself and have noticed a change in my over all health since I eliminated it from my diet.
                                Still staying off topic, the bolded part isn't really correct. Because other mammal have adopted and fed babies that were a different species. Dogs or cats raising bunnies, squirrels, foxes etc. It does happen. You could probably youtube videos (to lazy to go check) of different species adopting and feeding babies.

                                I don't drink milk either.

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