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    Do I Have To Serve Milk?

    I have a family whose child will be 1 in april. I told them that once he turns 1, I no longer allow formula and he will be switched to cows milk. They asked if I can just give him water, because they are not milk drinkers at home. No allergy or religious reasons; just because. Im not on the food program but I know in licensing you still have to serve balanced meals. Do I have to give him milk or is water fine?
  • CityGarden
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 1667

    #2
    My dd never had milk.... I think it is odd humans drink another mammals milk, no other mammal on earth does this.

    Not sure how that impacts your license though.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered
      I have a family whose child will be 1 in april. I told them that once he turns 1, I no longer allow formula and he will be switched to cows milk. They asked if I can just give him water, because they are not milk drinkers at home. No allergy or religious reasons; just because. Im not on the food program but I know in licensing you still have to serve balanced meals. Do I have to give him milk or is water fine?
      Depends on what your state licensing rules say.
      What state are you in?

      The food program does allow for alternatives to be served so although you are not on the food program, most still follow the recommended guidelines for meals and snacks.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        Originally posted by CityGarden
        My dd never had milk.... I think it is odd humans drink another mammals milk, no other mammal on earth does this.

        Not sure how that impacts your license though.
        Totally off topic but I think it's odd that people use that (bolded) as an example or in support of not drinking cow's milk. Technically no other mammals can do what humans do so.... ::

        I don't drink milk myself and have noticed a change in my over all health since I eliminated it from my diet.

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        • daycare
          Advanced Daycare.com *********
          • Feb 2011
          • 16259

          #5
          are you on the food program? as BC said, depends on the state.

          I am in CA and I can allow for a parent to sign a request to substitute without having to go see a doctor.

          Taking the milk out completely won't provide sufficient amount of fat, protein and calories this child needs.

          I am vegan, don't even do soy. I don't really do any form of milk, I don't like processed foods/beverages.

          BUT I am an adult and make up for it in many other ways...

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          • Unregistered

            #6
            Yeah i never really understood why people are so against drinking milk when they drink soda, coffee, alcohol, clearly things that are worse for you to consume...
            We eat the cows rump, why not its milk! Lol
            Im in MN btw.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered
              Yeah i never really understood why people are so against drinking milk when they drink soda, coffee, alcohol, clearly things that are worse for you to consume...
              We eat the cows rump, why not its milk! Lol
              Im in MN btw.

              MN state regulations say:

              9502.0445 WATER, FOOD, AND NUTRITION

              Subp. 3. Meals and snacks. Well-balanced meals and snacks must be offered daily.
              §A. Food served during the day must include servings from each of the basic food groups as defined by the United States Department of Agriculture's Code of Federal Regulations, title 7, section 226.20.




              I have a 2 kids that don't really want/like milk but I still need to offer it. They can decline and drink water instead but according to the food program I have to "offer" it.

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              • daycarediva
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 11698

                #8
                I have to offer it, they can chose to consume or not.

                Are they using soy formula? What does your food program say about a parent note? I had one parent opt out milk and my FP accepted her note.

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                • Jupadia
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 836

                  #9
                  Sorry just wondering why you would not allow formula. I get it if you provided it but if parents are bringing it why not. I only ask cause I give my own formula still at times. But he also gets milk now at 15 months.

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                  • Leigh
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3814

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    Totally off topic but I think it's odd that people use that (bolded) as an example or in support of not drinking cow's milk. Technically no other mammals can do what humans do so.... ::

                    I don't drink milk myself and have noticed a change in my over all health since I eliminated it from my diet.
                    I've had kittens drinking dog's milk. I'm not a milk drinker, either, but I push it with my son. He's not such a fan, either, but he does like soy milk and cashew milk, so we rotate. As far as the food program, soy is an acceptable substitute if the parent signs a request for it.

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                    • hwichlaz
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 2064

                      #11
                      They don't just wake up on their 1st birthday no longer needing formula or breastmilk. Though I can understand if you're no longer willing to provide it at that point. It's still better for them than cow's milk.

                      But here, even pediatricians recommend a slow transition, starting on the first birthday.

                      According to the California Healthy Beverages Act of 2007 I can only serve Milk, Water, or one serving per day of 100% fruit juice. If I wasn't on the food program I'd have no problem not serving cow's milk to a child that was off formula and eating an otherwise well balanced diet. But a child that wasn't yet eating well, I'd keep on formula a bit longer.

                      editing to add: My perspective is that of a parent who's middle child didn't even start solid foods until around his first birthday. He certainly wasn't ready to give up breatmilk or formula at that point...cow's milk would have been completely inappropriate and innadequate as a milk source.

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                      • debbiedoeszip
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 412

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        I have a family whose child will be 1 in april. I told them that once he turns 1, I no longer allow formula and he will be switched to cows milk. They asked if I can just give him water, because they are not milk drinkers at home. No allergy or religious reasons; just because. Im not on the food program but I know in licensing you still have to serve balanced meals. Do I have to give him milk or is water fine?
                        Are they ok with him having cheese and yogurt? If so, then I think that him drinking water and not having milk is fine. If not, then I don't think that I'd be comfortable with not serving anything from an entire food group (dairy).

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                        • Unregistered

                          #13
                          Unless their is a weight gaining issue, formula is no longer needed. It also states on the container up to 12 months. Research shows continued use of bottle and formula can lead to childhood obesity.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #14
                            My son was done with bottle at 10 months and formula at 11 months. He had most of his teeth already and ate the same full meals I ate. So it was so longer needed. He was in the 95th percentile, he did not need the extra fat from formula.

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                            • Unregistered

                              #15
                              Yes he eats cheese and yogurt. He is a really good eater, so going off formula will be fine. One of the kids I had was very skinny and didnt eat well, so i allowed toddler formula until he was 15 months and started eating better.
                              I just wanted to make sure I wouldnt get cited if my licenser saw i wasnt giving him milk. My inspection is coming up!

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