Holding Daycare Spot Before New Baby Can Even Be Cared For?

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  • Play Care
    Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 6642

    #16
    Originally posted by daycarediva
    Is that on your license? because I have 6 spaces, 2 can be under 2. I always have 6 kids here and have had 2 under 2 before (18m-24m) Everyone locally is that way, unless they have limits on their license (I've seen some 4 kid max in apartments)

    My registrar was just saying that if UPK goes full day in our district, those kids count as SA. So I could have 8 under 5. (I'm honestly hoping that happens)
    HOLY Sh!T !!
    So, I just actually looked at the license that's been hanging on my wall for 3 years now.
    You're right!!! I have an extra flicking spot I haven't filled because of the way the regs were when I started
    Back when I started it was 5 FT kids with 2 under 2, and if everyone was 2 and up you got that "extra" 6th spot.
    Off to advertise::

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    • Play Care
      Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 6642

      #17
      Originally posted by Play Care
      HOLY Sh!T !!
      So, I just actually looked at the license that's been hanging on my wall for 3 years now.
      You're right!!! I have an extra flicking spot I haven't filled because of the way the regs were when I started
      Back when I started it was 5 FT kids with 2 under 2, and if everyone was 2 and up you got that "extra" 6th spot.
      Off to advertise::
      Okay, nm. I guess I did know because I always kept that spot filled with a SA kid. I just forgot. Because I am obviously losing my mind.

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      • mommyneedsadayoff
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 1754

        #18
        Originally posted by Guest Mamma
        Thanks for all the advice!!

        Yes, and I would be fine with her filling that 6th spot with an over 2 child. Since my older daughter is currently holding 1 spot, I could always pull her out when the infant spot becomes available in June. At least that would give me some time to find a preschool for my older daughter and I would have no problem paying for the infant spot as soon as the one baby turns 2. I just don't understand how she could basically "sell out" a current family for one that she doesn't even know, but I guess it's her business to run.
        Have you told her any of this? I am curious what she would say if you let her know what your plans are, especially about pulling your daughter out. See, you think she is "selling you out" because she is trying to keep a steady income so she can run her business, yet you are ready to drop her for a provider you don't even know because of money. My guess is that she is holding that 6th spot FOR YOU and does not want to fill it because she is planing on having BOTH your kids come June. You have not informed her that she may only have one if she is requiring you pay to hold the spot, so I would have a conversation with her and fill her in (I would be advertising to fill two spots if it was me you told that too). If you love her and trust her with your kids, don't let money ruin that relationship! Trust me...it is priceless!

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        • Guest Mamma

          #19
          Originally posted by mommyneedsadayoff
          Have you told her any of this? I am curious what she would say if you let her know what your plans are, especially about pulling your daughter out. See, you think she is "selling you out" because she is trying to keep a steady income so she can run her business, yet you are ready to drop her for a provider you don't even know because of money. My guess is that she is holding that 6th spot FOR YOU and does not want to fill it because she is planing on having BOTH your kids come June. You have not informed her that she may only have one if she is requiring you pay to hold the spot, so I would have a conversation with her and fill her in (I would politely give you your two week notice). If you love her and trust her with your kids, don't let money ruin that relationship! Trust me...it is priceless!
          Yes, we have told her that we were planning to transition my daughter to a preschool/pre-k school before she goes to kindergarten and have been planning to do that sometime this fall, so she is well aware of that happening. She also has had an open 6th spot since last August, so she has had plenty of time to fill that open spot, but has chosen not to at her own expense. She just recently gave us a deadline for us to tell her where we are planning to take the new baby once she arrives.

          We are planning to have a conversation about this tonight and hope everything will work itself out for all parties involved!

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          • Snowmom
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 1689

            #20
            Originally posted by Guest Mamma
            Yes, we have told her that we were planning to transition my daughter to a preschool/pre-k school before she goes to kindergarten and have been planning to do that sometime this fall, so she is well aware of that happening. She also has had an open 6th spot since last August, so she has had plenty of time to fill that open spot, but has chosen not to at her own expense. She just recently gave us a deadline for us to tell her where we are planning to take the new baby once she arrives.

            We are planning to have a conversation about this tonight and hope everything will work itself out for all parties involved!
            Good for her!

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            • mommyneedsadayoff
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 1754

              #21
              Originally posted by Guest Mamma
              Yes, we have told her that we were planning to transition my daughter to a preschool/pre-k school before she goes to kindergarten and have been planning to do that sometime this fall, so she is well aware of that happening. She also has had an open 6th spot since last August, so she has had plenty of time to fill that open spot, but has chosen not to at her own expense. She just recently gave us a deadline for us to tell her where we are planning to take the new baby once she arrives.

              We are planning to have a conversation about this tonight and hope everything will work itself out for all parties involved!
              Good! Communication is key! I hope you know that I am just trying to give the provider perspective, so I am not trying to be harsh Just thinking out loud here, but do you think she is charging you the holding fee because she may be trying to get you leave on your own? When did you tell her you plan to enroll your dh in preschool? For some providers, that can be offensive and it may have rubbed her the wrong way. She may be feeling like she is working her booty off caring for your kid and now you plan to drop her for a preschool, which is probably what you will do for your new baby when it is time too. I am not saying that is the case, but for me personally, if you told me that come June, I may have both kids, or I may just have one, and then come August, I may be be losing one of the kids that I might still have, it would make me feel very insecure about my potential income from your family and for many providers, putting a price on that insecurity is the only solution besides terming, kwim?

              Anyway, just some thoughts and I hope it all works out for you! Keep us posted!

              (and just one other note. When you speak with her, I would avoid trying to tell her what she can and can't do with her business, in regards to the ratio stuff and keeping her spots full. I have let spots sit empty because I was content with my group and then the furnace goes bonkers and I need to fill that spot quickly. Stuff happens and things change, but really the only discussion is whether you are willing to do what she is asking of you to keep your spot. Otherwise, I would just move on if you can't. It will be awkward otherwise.)

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              • daycarediva
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 11698

                #22
                Originally posted by Play Care
                HOLY Sh!T !!
                So, I just actually looked at the license that's been hanging on my wall for 3 years now.
                You're right!!! I have an extra flicking spot I haven't filled because of the way the regs were when I started
                Back when I started it was 5 FT kids with 2 under 2, and if everyone was 2 and up you got that "extra" 6th spot.
                Off to advertise::
                Originally posted by Play Care
                Okay, nm. I guess I did know because I always kept that spot filled with a SA kid. I just forgot. Because I am obviously losing my mind.
                :: You're killing me.

                Originally posted by mommyneedsadayoff
                Good! Communication is key! I hope you know that I am just trying to give the provider perspective, so I am not trying to be harsh Just thinking out loud here, but do you think she is charging you the holding fee because she may be trying to get you leave on your own? When did you tell her you plan to enroll your dh in preschool? For some providers, that can be offensive and it may have rubbed her the wrong way. She may be feeling like she is working her booty off caring for your kid and now you plan to drop her for a preschool, which is probably what you will do for your new baby when it is time too. I am not saying that is the case, but for me personally, if you told me that come June, I may have both kids, or I may just have one, and then come August, I may be be losing one of the kids that I might still have, it would make me feel very insecure about my potential income from your family and for many providers, putting a price on that insecurity is the only solution besides terming, kwim?

                Anyway, just some thoughts and I hope it all works out for you! Keep us posted!

                (and just one other note. When you speak with her, I would avoid trying to tell her what she can and can't do with her business, in regards to the ratio stuff and keeping her spots full. I have let spots sit empty because I was content with my group and then the furnace goes bonkers and I need to fill that spot quickly. Stuff happens and things change, but really the only discussion is whether you are willing to do what she is asking of you to keep your spot. Otherwise, I would just move on if you can't. It will be awkward otherwise.)
                Yes, this. It isn't meant to be harsh, but it's the only business I am aware of where the business owner is seen as 'harsh' for wanting to earn what her potential spaces allow.

                I agree- the preschool push down has affected providers and especially sibling sets. I am seeing many families attempt to pull one child but leave the younger sibling without success. The provider KNOWS you're going to pull the younger sib for preschool, too so she's apt to fill both spaces. I really HATE taking sibling sets, and this is one of the reasons, it's twice the income to lose.

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