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  • daycarediva
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 11698

    #16
    (I don't have to serve milk with snacks if I provide two components, so water with snacks for his days here.)

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    • Baby Beluga
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      • Aug 2014
      • 3891

      #17
      Another thought (since we're on the topic of over wetting) has he been tested for diabetes?

      I am sure since he is under the care of a pedi he has been....but if he is excessively peeing through his diapers it might be worth asking mom about just in case he hasn't been yet.

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      • Ariana
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 8969

        #18
        What does mom say about excessive urination? Is this somehow related to anemia? I know it is related to sickle cell anemia but I assume he does not have that.

        Does he urinate frequently or just produces a lot each time...or both?

        I actually have the opposite problem with kids in my care. They barely urinate at all. My DCG is with me 8 hours a day, drinks lots of water here and will not urinate at all, all day. Has always been like this. Weird! I just started two new kids who also seem to not urinate much.

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        • daycarediva
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 11698

          #19
          Originally posted by Baby Beluga
          Another thought (since we're on the topic of over wetting) has he been tested for diabetes?

          I am sure since he is under the care of a pedi he has been....but if he is excessively peeing through his diapers it might be worth asking mom about just in case he hasn't been yet.
          Yes, he was.

          Originally posted by Ariana
          What does mom say about excessive urination? Is this somehow related to anemia? I know it is related to sickle cell anemia but I assume he does not have that.

          Does he urinate frequently or just produces a lot each time...or both?

          I actually have the opposite problem with kids in my care. They barely urinate at all. My DCG is with me 8 hours a day, drinks lots of water here and will not urinate at all, all day. Has always been like this. Weird! I just started two new kids who also seem to not urinate much.
          Yes! All of my other dck's are this way, too. Barely wet at each change or one big wet diaper after nap. I have to PUSH fluids so they will actually pee (most don't care for milk but drink water, which is always available)


          Mom says it's unrelated to the anemia, but it was enough to 'warn' me about changing him more often (I change every 2,or at least check every 2). I really thought Mom was exaggerating.

          He had water available only for snack. 1 cracker, 1 pear slice, 1 cheese square.

          I don't know him well enough, and it could just be personality, but he seems less 'busy' than peers. He doesn't run, or try to climb anything, or go from activity to activity. He's content to sit with blocks and play on the carpet, the entire center time.

          Have to say- he's a SWEET little guy though, he's happy, smiling, laughing, speaking some, waving, and blowing kisses ALL DAY.

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          • happymom
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2015
            • 1809

            #20
            Originally posted by daycarediva
            happymom- the issue is Mom is well aware of milk supposed to be limited amounts (from the pediatrician) and isn't following those guidelines. He is between me and grandma right now, and Mom says she KNOWS grandma is giving him cups of milk with meals AND snacks. When I asked for a note to NOT give him milk with meals, she said that's what he always gets at home. Which is precisely the issue.
            Awesome. My oldest was way off the charts for both height/weight at that age (15-16lbs at 18 months), but our experience was 100% different than this, so I don't have a lot of input. Seems scary though, I'm glad he's closely monitored by a doctor

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            • Mom2Two
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              • Jan 2015
              • 1855

              #21
              I've had a heavy wetter who had to be changed every 1.5 hours. It's a lot, but it helps to change them in stand up position imo.

              On the milk...I wonder if soy milk maybe doesn't have the affect of preventing iron absorption. Maybe switch to that on a drs note. I wouldn't serve that kiddo any more milk than required by food program and I definitely wouldn't serve juice. If the kiddo is peeing that much, he should not be drinking more calories--solid food instead.

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              • Pestle
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2016
                • 1729

                #22
                I have no input on the diet (other than to agree that, for pete's sake, don't go behind the parents' backs about anything).

                As far as wetting goes, I've had all my kids his age sitting on the potty chair briefly several times a day, when it's potty time for the bigger kids, and they do urinate almost every time. That could help you out--if he empties his tank a bit throughout the day.

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                • happymom
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 1809

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Pestle
                  As far as wetting goes, I've had all my kids his age sitting on the potty chair briefly several times a day, when it's potty time for the bigger kids, and they do urinate almost every time. That could help you out--if he empties his tank a bit throughout the day.
                  Can you tell me more about this, please? With my own 16mo boy I help him sit on the potty when we are at home. He is mostly non-verbal but last week he picked up his potty seat to put it on the toilet, I asked him if he had to go, he shook his head yes -- I sat him down and he pooped and peed . He doesn't mind peeing in his diaper but he definitely prefers pooping in the toilet.

                  It seems like an impossible opportunity for him to have at daycare. So I'm just curious how it works in yours!

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                  • Pestle
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 1729

                    #24
                    I do Montessori-style toilet learning. Not the full-blown thing, which takes a lot of effort, but some of the approaches to toilet learning. I find it works well in a daycare setting because the kids are all learning from each other at whatever stage they're at.

                    First, I change the kids frequently. I'm not paying for the diapers so I don't mind the frequent changes--any time the kid is wet, a new diaper goes on, so they get accustomed to being dry and will be uncomfortable when they're wet. As soon as the kids can stand, I change them standing up in the bathroom so they associate the location with the bodily function. I get them used to hand-washing each time they wet/soil themselves and I have them take a brief, no-pressure turn on this low potty. (It's discontinued; see if you can find something this low that's this easy to sit down on.) The bigger toddlers who are walking well climb up this potty seat. They love it! It's never 100%, but the point is to get them involved in the process and reduce pushback.

                    A lot of parents wait until their kids are way past the sensitive period for toilet learning, because it's more convenient to keep them in diapers longer, and then try to do a potty-training crash course over just one weekend. Whatever; I'm not going to try to change how they do it, but easing kids into the process here in my day care can only make it all less painful both here and at home.

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                    • daycarediva
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 11698

                      #25
                      The food program said if Mom provides a note about how much milk he is served at home, and I (already have) a dr's note with a specific milk limit, I can NOT give him milk, because he has already exceeded the pediatrician's maximum amount.

                      So Mom is writing me a note.

                      Pestle- I already tried to put him on the potty. I change everyone in our (preschool size) half bathroom. Have them sit while I get a new diaper, wash hands, whatever. He F R E A K S out when the toilet is offered, unfortunately.

                      I provide diapers, not worried about cost, but I am concerned with the sanitation issues with leaking diapers/urine, and the medical concerns, of course.

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                      • Pestle
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2016
                        • 1729

                        #26
                        Oh, sorry, daycarediva--I was responding to happymom, not trying to boss you around! What a frustrating situation.

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                        • Ariana
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 8969

                          #27
                          Originally posted by daycarediva
                          The food program said if Mom provides a note about how much milk he is served at home, and I (already have) a dr's note with a specific milk limit, I can NOT give him milk, because he has already exceeded the pediatrician's maximum amount.

                          So Mom is writing me a note.
                          That is perfect!

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                          • hwichlaz
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 2064

                            #28
                            Food program here says 4 ounces is a serving of milk for a child that age.

                            I'd still give the required amount of milk, but I'd put it on the table as the VERY last thing I do. Kind of watch that he's had a few bites of everything first.

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                            • daycarediva
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 11698

                              #29
                              Well, he was here today, I have Mom's note and dr's note. Mom brought him one pediasure, she had no reservations about me trying to get him to drink something other than milk but went on and on about how he refuses it at home.

                              He drank half the can after breakfast and the other half after lunch. Still ate very, very little and I waited until the other kids were almost done eating before giving him any liquids.

                              I got huggies overnight diapers and used pads in combination. I was able to change him with the other kids (although still SOAKED, it was much more manageable)

                              Mom is shocked that he drank it, of course.

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