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  • DaveA
    Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
    • Jul 2014
    • 4245

    Using Game with DCKs?

    Every year DW & I trade with one of her coworkers for a couple deer (I love venison but don't have time to hunt right now.) As I was picking the first one up from processors the owner (who knows what I do) asked if I use it in the daycare. When I said of course he said I might want to double check on that one being legal. I never thought about it. I mean it's professionally processed and I mainly use the breakfast sausage and plain ground meat in lunch recipies. Does anybody else use game meat in daycare? I'm not worried about DCPs- all but one of my families hunt and that one doesn't care. I just never thought about if it was ok with regs.
  • daycarediva
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 11698

    #2
    I am not allowed to use any game meats, any home canned foods or any home grown eggs per my food program.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #3
      Originally posted by DaveA
      Every year DW & I trade with one of her coworkers for a couple deer (I love venison but don't have time to hunt right now.) As I was picking the first one up from processors the owner (who knows what I do) asked if I use it in the daycare. When I said of course he said I might want to double check on that one being legal. I never thought about it. I mean it's professionally processed and I mainly use the breakfast sausage and plain ground meat in lunch recipies. Does anybody else use game meat in daycare? I'm not worried about DCPs- all but one of my families hunt and that one doesn't care. I just never thought about if it was ok with regs.
      "All “game” meat must be purchased from a USDA inspected establishment. Wild game is not allowed to be used in FNS Child Nutrition Programs."

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      • DaveA
        Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
        • Jul 2014
        • 4245

        #4
        I'm not on the food program, so I wouldn't have to worry about that. It just surprised me that something coming from an inspected processor could be a problem. And no home grown eggs?

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        • Controlled Chaos
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 2108

          #5
          I would totally feed them game meat! When I realized I couldn't as I am on the food program I was super bummed. I have a freezer of moose hamburger. I know here we also can't feed the dcks egss from chickens we own, or from farmer markets. ??? We are encouraged to go to all these training about fresh, local foods, but then can't use them? I get the concern some have with safety, but I swear you are just as likely to get food poisoning or have a contamination issue with buying animal products at a big grocery store. Its just harder to trace the source of the contamination there.

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          • mommiebookworm
            Daycare.com Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 347

            #6
            I'm trying to get on the food program. My rep said wild game was not allowed, but my home grown eggs are ok!

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              Originally posted by Controlled Chaos
              I would totally feed them game meat! When I realized I couldn't as I am on the food program I was super bummed. I have a freezer of moose hamburger. I know here we also can't feed the dcks egss from chickens we own, or from farmer markets. ??? We are encouraged to go to all these training about fresh, local foods, but then can't use them? I get the concern some have with safety, but I swear you are just as likely to get food poisoning or have a contamination issue with buying animal products at a big grocery store. Its just harder to trace the source of the contamination there.
              Do NOT, I repeat do NOT tell NannyDe you have moose meat. :: If she gets wind of this, she will be on your doorstep........ :: ::

              As far as wild game goes, it is NOT credible on the food program but that does not mean you can't serve it. You just can't claim it as a credible meat source.

              Its no different that candy or treats served during holiday parties or whatever occasions we served/dole out treats... we CAN serve them, just can't be reimbursed for them via the food program.

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              • jenboo
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 3180

                #8
                This is straight from my city's licensing "serve pasturized milk and juice only. No home canned foods, except jams and jellies. No wild game, USDA approved meat only. "

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                • daycarediva
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 11698

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Controlled Chaos
                  I would totally feed them game meat! When I realized I couldn't as I am on the food program I was super bummed. I have a freezer of moose hamburger. I know here we also can't feed the dcks egss from chickens we own, or from farmer markets. ??? We are encouraged to go to all these training about fresh, local foods, but then can't use them? I get the concern some have with safety, but I swear you are just as likely to get food poisoning or have a contamination issue with buying animal products at a big grocery store. Its just harder to trace the source of the contamination there.
                  Yup! I plan to serve them the eggs from our chickens at breakfast, since we can't be credited for the protein at breakfast anyway.

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                  • Pestle
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 1729

                    #10
                    Licensing in TN says:

                    "All food shall be from sources approved or considered satisfactory. The use of hermetically sealed containers (home canned food) is prohibited."

                    They didn't specifically address game, but I doubt it'd be permitted due to the potential for parasites.

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                    • Controlled Chaos
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2108

                      #11
                      Originally posted by daycarediva
                      Yup! I plan to serve them the eggs from our chickens at breakfast, since we can't be credited for the protein at breakfast anyway.
                      Good plan. I hate that protein doesn't count for breakfast. Back ?! Eggs?! Yogurt?! No I must be crazy - throw a handful of cheerios and 2/3 a banana at them and it is perfect

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                      • Baby Beluga
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 3891

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Controlled Chaos
                        Good plan. I hate that protein doesn't count for breakfast. Back ?! Eggs?! Yogurt?! No I must be crazy - throw a handful of cheerios and 2/3 a banana at them and it is perfect
                        I've always wondered about this. I am not on the food program, but the program here requires milk to be served at breakfast. I wonder if they feel the protein in milk is enough and that's why an additional source of protein is not required.

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Baby Beluga
                          I've always wondered about this. I am not on the food program, but the program here requires milk to be served at breakfast. I wonder if they feel the protein in milk is enough and that's why an additional source of protein is not required.
                          The new FP rules beginning in 2017 allow meat/meat substitutes to be served in place of the entire grains requirement a maximum of 3 times a week.

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                          • jenboo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3180

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            The new FP rules beginning in 2017 allow meat/meat substitutes to be served in place of the entire grains requirement a maximum of 3 times a week.

                            http://usa.childcareaware.org/2016/0...-food-program/
                            I cannot wait! I think it's crazy you can't claim meat at breakfast.

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