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  • midaycare
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 5658

    #16
    I don't understand why the states are so involved in vaccines...

    Would someone please tell me why a daycare provider is responsible for keeping up to date with someone else's immunizations? I have never understood this.

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    • spedmommy4
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 935

      #17
      Originally posted by daycare
      Because of QRIS I have had about 6 visits from different agencies this year. One for licensing.

      During QRIS under health and safety all of my immunizations were inspected, they are asking me proof now for my employees records since the law passed in September that al of us have to show proof as well.

      I have a headache from all of this.
      You and me both daycare. In the area of California I was in, I rarely saw anyone. It was nice.

      Here, there are liicensing visit 2-3 times a years, health department inspections, immunization state auditor inspections, DHS unannounced visits, (because I take state pay kids) and the food program. Honestly, I am three months in here and can't see myself staying in this business here. States are taking oversight to a new level.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #18
        Originally posted by midaycare
        I don't understand why the states are so involved in vaccines...
        If a majority of residents that live in the state (adult and child) are immunized the lesser the chances of an outbreak occurring.

        I would think the states (individually and collectively) have a vested interest in immunizations.

        Health costs effect everyone on some level or another.

        Originally posted by midaycare
        Would someone please tell me why a daycare provider is responsible for keeping up to date with someone else's immunizations? I have never understood this.
        It's usually the first "group" experience a child has.

        I think it's like the state being vested in their residents.
        As a child care program, I am vested in the health and well being of my clients.

        Schools track immunizations where child care's leave off, colleges track immunizations where public schools leave off... etc..

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          Originally posted by Mom2Two
          Yeah I'm wondering the same thing. Do these states allow religious exemptions or such?
          I am in MN

          As a provider, I can choose to accept children on any vaccination schedule (including non-vaccinated).

          It is MY personal choice and one left up to each individual provider.

          If I choose to accept a child on a delayed vax schedule I am required to have a written statement from the child's pediatrician stating why the schedule is delayed, the expected dates each imm will be given and that the Dr has discussed both the positives/negatives of delayed vaccinations with the parent.

          If I choose to accept a child that is not immunized at all and has no plans to immunize, I need to have a statement on file from the child's pediatrician stating the Dr has discussed this with the family and the family is aware of the possible outcomes of not vaccinating and participating in group care.

          Both religious and personal exemptions are acceptable but we have to have the Dr's statement on file with the signed form from the parent in order to meet licensing rules.

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          • midaycare
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 5658

            #20
            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            If a majority of residents that live in the state (adult and child) are immunized the lesser the chances of an outbreak occurring.

            I would think the states (individually and collectively) have a vested interest in immunizations.

            Health costs effect everyone on some level or another.



            It's usually the first "group" experience a child has.

            I think it's like the state being vested in their residents.
            As a child care program, I am vested in the health and well being of my clients.

            Schools track immunizations where child care's leave off, colleges track immunizations where public schools leave off... etc..
            Call me crazy, but I have no interest in whether or not parents vac their child. I'm not anti-vac, just anti government interference.

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            • Livin4grace
              Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 5

              #21
              Originally posted by midaycare
              Call me crazy, but I have no interest in whether or not parents vac their child. I'm not anti-vac, just anti government interference.
              Until a newborn in your care who is not yet old enough to be fully vaccinated is exposed to measles or whooping cough and DIES.

              I am personally passionate about Vaccinations. They save lives. And while you may think it is unfair to take away your choice wether or not to vaccinate a child. What about the choice of the families whose children are too young or too sick to vaccinate? Do they get a choice?

              When the community is vaccinated, the whole community is safer. It takes a village to raise a child. A vaccinated village.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by Livin4grace
                Until a newborn in your care who is not yet old enough to be fully vaccinated is exposed to measles or whooping cough and DIES.

                I am personally passionate about Vaccinations. They save lives. And while you may think it is unfair to take away your choice wether or not to vaccinate a child. What about the choice of the families whose children are too young or too sick to vaccinate? Do they get a choice?

                When the community is vaccinated, the whole community is safer. It takes a village to raise a child. A vaccinated village.

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                • midaycare
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 5658

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Livin4grace
                  Until a newborn in your care who is not yet old enough to be fully vaccinated is exposed to measles or whooping cough and DIES.

                  I am personally passionate about Vaccinations. They save lives. And while you may think it is unfair to take away your choice wether or not to vaccinate a child. What about the choice of the families whose children are too young or too sick to vaccinate? Do they get a choice?

                  When the community is vaccinated, the whole community is safer. It takes a village to raise a child. A vaccinated village.
                  If a parent chooses not to vaccinate, that's on the parent. I can not be responsible for anyone's choices but my own.

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                  • daycare
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                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #24
                    Adopting one of the most far-reaching vaccination laws in the nation, California on Tuesday barred religious and other personal-belief exemptions for schoolchildren, a move that could affect tens of thousands of students and sets up a potential court battle with opponents of immunization.


                    More on why CA adopted this law.

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