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  • midaycare
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 5658

    Optimal Number of Kids

    The SD post got me thinking...what do you believe is the optimal - or maximum - number of children a provider should have?

    States really differ on this! I can watch 6 within strict age ratios.

    I think 7 kids would be fine with age ratios, and also that would be a good maximum.
  • Leigh
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 3814

    #2
    Originally posted by midaycare
    The SD post got me thinking...what do you believe is the optimal - or maximum - number of children a provider should have?

    States really differ on this! I can watch 6 within strict age ratios.

    I think 7 kids would be fine with age ratios, and also that would be a good maximum.
    I find 12 to be much easier than 4. 12 is very manageable. 2 under 1, 2 between 12 and 24 months, the rest 2 & up.

    The only issue that I have is the mixed ages. Outside time is difficult because I have 15 month old twins who CAN'T go outdoors (doctor's orders), so outdoor time is scheduled around their naps (they sleep inside the sliding door so I can watch them and the kids outside at the same time).

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    • MunchkinWrangler
      New Daycare.com Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 777

      #3
      I would say 6-7. Especially keeping within proper ratios. Lots of fun!

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      • daycarediva
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 11698

        #4
        I would love to be able to take 8 under 5. I can't with licensing in my state, but I don't take infants so it would be just ages 2-5. I have 6 under 5 daily now, and had two kids aging up to K (and had 8 legally all day in summer) and it was easy peasy!

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        • midaycare
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 5658

          #5
          Originally posted by Leigh
          I find 12 to be much easier than 4. 12 is very manageable. 2 under 1, 2 between 12 and 24 months, the rest 2 & up.

          The only issue that I have is the mixed ages. Outside time is difficult because I have 15 month old twins who CAN'T go outdoors (doctor's orders), so outdoor time is scheduled around their naps (they sleep inside the sliding door so I can watch them and the kids outside at the same time).
          You went straight from 4 to 12 ::

          Did you have 12 at one time?

          It's funny because when I taught 1st and 2nd grade, it was nothing to have 25-30 kids. But they were all potty trained and followed directions relatively well.

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          • laundrymom
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 4177

            #6
            I like 10 but think 12 is doable

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              Originally posted by laundrymom
              I like 10 but think 12 is doable


              I normally have 10 but these last few years I've had 12.

              Like Leigh said...12 is easy... 4 not so much.

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              • midaycare
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 5658

                #8
                I agree 4 is low. When I started I had 4 for the first month or so, maybe 6 weeks. It was torture.

                5 kids gives everyone a ton of individual attention, and if the ages are right, they play together well.

                6 works well. 7 is illegal here but I've done it with a helper - I have a group family home license that I don't normally use. It allows me to have 12 with a helper. I've done up to 10 with a helper, but that just gets crazy for me. That could be because the helper was short term and the kids and situations were short term, so I ended up with most of the work anyway.

                I think 7 would be cool, much more than that I would lose control and balance.

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                • KIDZRMYBIZ
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 672

                  #9
                  I have to say that I like 6 (2 babies, 2 toddlers, 2 preschoolers). For me, it's a pretty peaceful day when that happens. However, I am going through all the same motions daily whether there is 1 here or all 8, and I think it would take nothing to add 4 more to it. But I really like 6!

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                  • MunchkinWrangler
                    New Daycare.com Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 777

                    #10
                    Originally posted by midaycare
                    I agree 4 is low. When I started I had 4 for the first month or so, maybe 6 weeks. It was torture.

                    5 kids gives everyone a ton of individual attention, and if the ages are right, they play together well.

                    6 works well. 7 is illegal here but I've done it with a helper - I have a group family home license that I don't normally use. It allows me to have 12 with a helper. I've done up to 10 with a helper, but that just gets crazy for me. That could be because the helper was short term and the kids and situations were short term, so I ended up with most of the work anyway.

                    I think 7 would be cool, much more than that I would lose control and balance.
                    Yes, at my peak I had 7. 1-infant 2-toddlers 2-preschoolers 2-schoolagers. It made for a well rounded group and the ages matched up perfectly.

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                    • lovemydaycare0912
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 756

                      #11
                      Those who have 12, are you able to watch 12 on your own or do you have assistants that need to be there? I think I'd go crazy with 12 under 3 since that's the age range I care for. Even with my husband here I think it would be too much.

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                      • jenboo
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3180

                        #12
                        I currently do 5 kids under 2yrs old. I could easily add 1 more. If the kids were 2 and up, i think 12 would be a good number.

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                        • Controlled Chaos
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2108

                          #13
                          I am licensed for 8, but 2 of mine don't count so I have had 10 kids who were are 5y and under.

                          I typically have 9 and it runs really smoothly.
                          I think I like 8 best, 6-8 is ideal. I start to get bored with 6 though, and less than that I have more behavior issues and they need entertained more.

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                          • Snowmom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 1689

                            #14
                            I have 12.
                            I love 12. Perfect amount to me.
                            Yes, all on my own, no helpers.
                            8 preschoolers (2-5 yrs old), 2 under 2yrs, 2 SA'ers (mine).

                            All are presently napping and follow a daily routine to the T.

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                            • Blackcat31
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 36124

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Snowmom
                              I have 12.
                              I love 12. Perfect amount to me.
                              Yes, all on my own, no helpers.
                              8 preschoolers (2-5 yrs old), 2 under 2yrs, 2 SA'ers (mine).

                              All are presently napping and follow a daily routine to the T.
                              this^^^

                              no helpers. (DH does come into daycare and help but not because he is required too.....he comes because he's lonely at home with just the cats and the dog )

                              Mine are:
                              1 ~ 5 month old (infant)
                              2 ~ 20/21 months (1 boy/1 girl)
                              7 ~ preschoolers (2 yrs to 4 yrs....5 boys/2 girls)
                              2 ~ school aged kids (late summer birthdays so waiting until next year to start kindy..... 1 boy/1 girl)

                              The magic key for me is routine, routine, routine, routine

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