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I have been licensed for 21 yrs,now they want to do this rating program,I am not feeling none of that,if it's not broke leave me alone. I'm thinking of just being unlicensed, I'm just keeping four kids anyway.How is it unlicensed, I think you can still be on the food program, any tips will be welcomed.
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I was just like you. Said pretty much the same things.
The problem with being unlicensed is that there is no future in it.
If you can make a living on four slots, it will buy you some time but not very much.
The goal is 1. Make all childcare regulated 2. Make all childcare provide early childhood education through ratings 3. Make all early childhood education universal under the umbrella of the public school system.
We are simply at step 2. :hug: They will lower ratios to make unlicensed no longer an option, it is already down to two kids here.
If you want a longer career, it is better to jump in with both feet early. The longer you wait, the higher the bar is. It raises quarterly. I don't want to scare you, it is just what is happening.
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~"The end is near...."I was just like you. Said pretty much the same things.
The problem with being unlicensed is that there is no future in it.
If you can make a living on four slots, it will buy you some time but not very much.
The goal is 1. Make all childcare regulated 2. Make all childcare provide early childhood education through ratings 3. Make all early childhood education universal under the umbrella of the public school system.
We are simply at step 2. :hug: They will lower ratios to make unlicensed no longer an option, it is already down to two kids here.
If you want a longer career, it is better to jump in with both feet early. The longer you wait, the higher the bar is. It raises quarterly. I don't want to scare you, it is just what is happening.
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::: I know. And I am not a conspiracy theory buff. This stuff is published and out there.
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This link is another interesting source of info.
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In some states, it is already here. In Kansas, there is no longer a legal way to be just registered or unlicensed. If you are caring for children you aren't related to in your own home, then you have to be licensed.Comment
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That change happened back in 2008 when I was working on the line in KCMO; providers were turning in everyone they thought were illegal even if they were legal on the MO side,
There are a few other states you can't be legally unlicensed either; MI, MD and OK are a few I can think of if memory serves me correctlyComment
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good thing my husband and i are practically debt free,we can do what ever,so I'm not to concern about it, I was just wondering. I do this just to have something to do, it's not as much fun as it used to be,parents were more involved and the kids knew how to play on their own.good luck to all those who choose to make this a career.I think I'm done,once they make it manditory. oh and we are allowed two kids unlicensedComment
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I was licensed for 8 yrs, in NYS. I gave it back. Yep
.I work underground. I follow 98% of the regs..even with paperwork. I have never had trouble filling spots. I have had teachers..nurses..lawyers..border control officers..all mandated reporters.I believe if you have a solid reputation, you can easily fill spots.
Here's some info that I have learned...call it a loophole if you will.
A. You do not have to let any government official or police officer into YOUR house. The only way they can come in is if the have a warrant. A warrant has to be from judge. They judge has to be given factual info for them to issue it.
B. There is a federal privacy law..stating that you can not give out info on a person under the age of 18 without parental consent.
What does that mean? If the state/cps/police comes to my door..I.ask them to leave my property. Unless they have a warrant...I do not have to answer questions. YOU should never let anyone in...what ever they observe they can use against you. They can lie and twist things to their advantage. Watch any cps video. If you do answer the door...you cannot give any info on any.children.in your care without parental consent. So..they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. For them to prove you have unrelated children..and they are in your home for more than 3 hrs on a regular basis( N.Y.s regs) would cost them hundreds of man hours. They don't have the manpower to do it.
Why am I underground...because when I had my license..a licensor lied...I had written proof...but because it's the state..they can do no wrong.Comment
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I'm registered, but for some reason I've been logged out. My password is in a notebook in a room with sleeping kids. Anyway, I am a listed home, which in Texas means 3 kids, fingerprints, background checks, but no inspections unless there is a complaint.
No one has mentioned this changing to me, but I'm a wise woman. Listed homes will be phased out sooner rather than later. I live in a historic home, and because of the heating system, it won't be approved for a registered home. I'd like 5 more years of this, but I will be thrilled if they give me 2 more. I'll be old enough for Medicare (provided the government doesn't stop it!) and I should be able to make it ok then.
What bothers me about this is that they are taking away the parents right to choose. One of my families chose me because I specialize in special needs kids. One because I have a laid back, easy-going, spending the day with grandma type of home. One because I have known her since before she was born and she refused to leave her baby anywhere but here. Every family is well-educated, informed, and they don't care if their child is given a jump start at the age of 2. They want the warmth, love, and small group that they find here. Why should the government remove that option? Sure, have those starred places so that parents can chose that if they want, but don't take away from the ones who want what I provide. (PS. Both of my 2 year olds know their ABCs, count to 15, etc, because we play all the time, and that's how they learn.)Comment
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We are going to be seeing a lot of it.
Not everyone can afford to get the education and fill the required supply lists necessary to opt in but also can't really afford to check out.
Especially older providers who also have limited opportunity to re-enter the general workforce due to time out of it.
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If I were forced to close this year, I'm not sure what I would do. I have been self employed since 1980 (not in daycare). I have a lot of experience in many areas, but none translate to the modern business world. I have a BS degree with a lifetime teaching certificate, but I shudder to think of going back to that.
Luckily, I live in a small town, and while it may not be my dream job, I'm pretty sure someone would find a place for me somewhere.
Or, I might go unlicensed. Goodness knows there are enough people doing that now. Every time someone posts on the local pages looking for daycare, 20 SAHMs start offering. Until they crack down on those, I think I'll be fine unlicensed, should it come to that.Comment
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I have zero issues with anyone operating legally.We are going to be seeing a lot of it.
Not everyone can afford to get the education and fill the required supply lists necessary to opt in but also can't really afford to check out.
Especially older providers who also have limited opportunity to re-enter the general workforce due to time out of it.
Licensed or unlicensed.
What I do have issues with is those that choose to consciously do things illegally.
I understand obstacles and road blocks. I understand limited opportunities and financial constraints but what I don't understand is the idea that just because you (general you) "think" you have found a loophole to skirt the law that it's some how okay or acceptable.
It's that attitude and that type of mindset that has caused damage to this profession far more than any government regulation or rule.
It's people that feel as if the rules apply to everyone but themselves.
Laws, regulations and policies DO make things difficult and sometimes impossible for some but because we still live in the land of free choice we have options. Sometimes, most times, those options require hard work and time but sadly it's just easier and more acceptable to take the illegal route.
Especially when there are folks willing to tell you exactly how to do it....
Our justice system might be broken and I have little faith in other areas of government but at least Karma still knows how to do her job.
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I guess I'm old school, but I think that you can't issue a blanket judgement for operating illegally. I would continue to operate as I do now. I would hate to see the "keeping 15 kids in front of a tv all day" type of care, but I can't see anything wrong with a parent sending her child to a nice lady who watches a child or two, especially if she has good references or if you know her. I think blanket judgements don't always fit here.Comment
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