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  • midaycare
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 5658

    Movement Monitors

    Does anyone use movement monitors on infants (for SIDS).

    I'm starting an infant in a few weeks, and another one a few months after that. I had an Angelcare Monitor for the previous ones.

    I'm just curious if anyone else uses them, and what brands/types.
  • finsup
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 1025

    #2
    I've used an angel are one in the past but it broke and I haven't ended up replacing it. I take babies, but feel pretty confident in just physically checking them often. However, I have heard good things about sunza ones. If I ever go with a motion style of monitor again, I'm pretty sure this is the direction I would go in.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #3
      We are NOT allowed to use any of these types of devices.

      They create a false sense of security and nothing replaces actually physical checks on infants while sleeping.

      We would be cited and/or fined if we used any of them.

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      • midaycare
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 5658

        #4
        Originally posted by finsup
        I've used an angel are one in the past but it broke and I haven't ended up replacing it. I take babies, but feel pretty confident in just physically checking them often. However, I have heard good things about sunza ones. If I ever go with a motion style of monitor again, I'm pretty sure this is the direction I would go in.
        I was thinking of switching to this.

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        • midaycare
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 5658

          #5
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          We are NOT allowed to use any of these types of devices.

          They create a false sense of security and nothing replaces actually physical checks on infants while sleeping.

          We would be cited and/or fined if we used any of them.
          Who is talking about replacing physical checks?

          Where I live, we are required to do 15 minute checks, but a lot can happen in 15 minutes.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #6
            Originally posted by midaycare
            Who is talking about replacing physical checks?

            Where I live, we are required to do 15 minute checks, but a lot can happen in 15 minutes.
            I dunno... I didn't say you should. (?)

            I am just sharing what my licensing department tells us about these items. We have to have infants sleep within sight at all times. (NOT saying you should)

            I think they are great and as a parent, I'd have used one in a for sure!

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            • midaycare
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 5658

              #7
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              I dunno... I didn't say you should. (?)

              I am just sharing what my licensing department tells us about these items. We have to have infants sleep within sight at all times. (NOT saying you should)

              I think they are great and as a parent, I'd have used one in a for sure!
              I used one as a parent and loved it. I felt tremendous piece of mind as a new parent.

              As a daycare provider, hearing horribly tragic stories about dck's who die of SIDS during daycare hours, I need to use this for my sanity currently. I'm not saying it's100% foul proof, but it's an extra step.

              I also have infants sleep within sight, I just am not taking any risks. Things happen so fast. I could be doing a particularly nasty diaper change, or sending a dck out the door, and miss something.

              Now in Michigan they are in the process (or maybe it's done already) of making a law where home daycares will be held responsible for deaths such as SIDS, and there will be serious jail time.

              No thanks!!!

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              • finsup
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 1025

                #8
                Originally posted by midaycare
                I used one as a parent and loved it. I felt tremendous piece of mind as a new parent.

                As a daycare provider, hearing horribly tragic stories about dck's who die of SIDS during daycare hours, I need to use this for my sanity currently. I'm not saying it's100% foul proof, but it's an extra step.

                I also have infants sleep within sight, I just am not taking any risks. Things happen so fast. I could be doing a particularly nasty diaper change, or sending a dck out the door, and miss something.

                Now in Michigan they are in the process (or maybe it's done alreaof making a law where home daycares will be held responsible for deaths such as SIDS, and there will be serious jail time.

                No thanks!!!
                Wait, what?! That is absolutely insane. A provider who looses a dck to sids is no more responsible than a parent who looses a child to sids Assuming safe sleep, provider sober, frequent checks etc, all that good stuff is going on.

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                • midaycare
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 5658

                  #9
                  Originally posted by finsup
                  Wait, what?! That is absolutely insane. A provider who looses a dck to sids is no more responsible than a parent who looses a child to sids Assuming safe sleep, provider sober, frequent checks etc, all that good stuff is going on.
                  Not anymore. I will do a search for the law. Itbwas approved in May.

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                  • finsup
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 1025

                    #10
                    Originally posted by midaycare
                    Not anymore. I will do a search for the law. Itbwas approved in May.
                    That's so unfair to you guys

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                    • midaycare
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 5658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by finsup
                      Wait, what?! That is absolutely insane. A provider who looses a dck to sids is no more responsible than a parent who looses a child to sids Assuming safe sleep, provider sober, frequent checks etc, all that good stuff is going on.
                      I can't make it clicky, but you can do a search for Cooper Fales and Bridges Day Care in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Laws were passed in April/May that if you have a child die in your home and you have ANY state violations - doesn't have to be related to the death, the state could come in and find your exit sign is in the wrong place - and you can face up to 20 YEARS in jail.

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                      • NillaWafers
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 593

                        #12
                        Originally posted by midaycare
                        I can't make it clicky, but you can do a search for Cooper Fales and Bridges Day Care in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Laws were passed in April/May that if you have a child die in your home and you have ANY state violations - doesn't have to be related to the death, the state could come in and find your exit sign is in the wrong place - and you can face up to 20 YEARS in jail.
                        Wow I would not be taking infants at all in that case

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                        • midaycare
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 5658

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NillaWafers
                          Wow I would not be taking infants at all in that case
                          I really thought long and hard about it. I tried to fight against the law, too.

                          Ultimately, kids who start with me as infants have a much easier time than the kids who come in at 1, 2, 3. I just need ALL safeguards and measures in place before the next one arrives.

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                          • jenboo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3180

                            #14
                            Originally posted by midaycare
                            I can't make it clicky, but you can do a search for Cooper Fales and Bridges Day Care in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Laws were passed in April/May that if you have a child die in your home and you have ANY state violations - doesn't have to be related to the death, the state could come in and find your exit sign is in the wrong place - and you can face up to 20 YEARS in jail.
                            That's ridiculous. There isn't even a cause for sids. How could they charge you for it if everything is done correctly.

                            From my research (which isn't much) I've read that if sids is going to happen, it's going to happen. You can't save a baby who dies from sids. In this case, a monitor won't do anything.
                            I'm not sure how accurate this is though.

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                            • laundrymom
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 4177

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NillaWafers
                              Wow I would not be taking infants at all in that case
                              If that happened here I will go to a no infant program. And take the two extra kids I'm allowed to have by not keeping infants.

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