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    #16
    It is possible to live on one income....different shifts..one parent home. I've lived it and made the sacrifice for the betterment if my kids. Now that one of my kids is 26...he sees it...he knows and understands what a I did for him
    He has more memories of us making the best of it with what we had...and he is better for it. These past 20 yrs of.parents are all about me and what they're family has or does..suffering from massive debt and exhausted from working...making no time for family. Sad.

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    • Cat Herder
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 13744

      #17
      As a mother of two adult son's, I can see the other side, though. Being a SAHM means Dad has the full responsibility for supporting the family. He does not get the same bonding time or the same opportunity to be a fully involved father to his children yet bears all the stress, pressure and blame when things don't go well.

      If they end up in divorce, this sacrifice is then held against him. He is forced to continue in that pattern until his children are grown, seeing his kids a handful of days a month, some days he will have to give up because he must work, and often after. It is a pretty unequal deal for men and a huge risk fewer are willing to take.

      Many men are looking for an equal life partner, one who takes responsibility for their own life choices, can support themselves and loves him enough to meet him halfway in parenting. Many men want to be active parents, too.

      I was a work at home mom. It solved my problem of needing to bring in a full income and be home with our kids. That is why I went into home daycare. I bring home more than I did in my former career when you take out all the meals out, work clothes and fuel/auto expenses.
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      • Josiegirl
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 10834

        #18
        But CH, while I agree with you in the traditional sense, many women are the main bread winners now and the man can choose to be at home. There are lots of ways to get out from under the need for daycare. Many of us here have done it. But then if everyone does it, we're out of work. It's all about choices and working together as a family unit towards what's most important in their lives, and setting up priorities. It's when mani/pedi costs, newest cellphones, fancy brand new cars every 2 years, etc., etc., become more important and they still gripe about dc costs...that's when I get a bit aggravated.
        I think a lot of couples do so much better with both of them working, not just financially but physically and mentally as well. Plus DC can be a great thing for tons of kiddos!! But it's like everything else, prices rise to keep up with the cost of living. If rates didn't get raised I couldn't afford to work. Thinking back to when my 1st dcf paid me to watch her 2 boys for 40 bucks a week. But back then 40 bucks bought a lot of groceries too!

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        • BrynleeJean
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2015
          • 241

          #19
          Originally posted by Thriftylady
          We do many of these same things. It is amazing how you can save money when you really need to.

          But what I noticed about the article is that really all it does is factor in the income one may loose. I mean duh, if you stay at home you will loose income. But in some cases, those same people are just spending more because they make more. In that regard, the extra income or loss of is a moot point I think. This article over simplifies the whole discussion.

          DH and I have made sacrifices since we married in 2000 to have me at home. Much of that time I have worked from home, but may have had a lower paying job than I otherwise would, but not always perhaps. There are other costs involved with working though. If I worked outside the home, I would be buying more gas, using my vehicle much more, buying more "lunch foods", spending more on groceries for hubby to take on the road in the semi, because he wouldn't be taking home cooked foods. I wouldn't have a garden at all (even though the one I have now is small). I would for sure spend more on clothing. So those things have to be factored in as well to get true numbers.
          I agree that the two income verses one is really a lifestyle choice, not really a lose or gain for anyone. I've lived in both categories. one DCM I have told me she wished she could stay home with her kids still like she did for a short while with her first but now their family is accustomed to the lifestyle and that is really the truth. new cars and payments, mortgages, going out to eat, or events that cost, big expensive family trips, that morning coffee on the way to work or whatever. not to mention gas for commuting to the gas and car upkeep for that.


          It is funny to see that the media that says that daycare prices are outrageous also weighs towards parents both working.

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          • kidsncats
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jul 2018
            • 25

            #20
            Nice article and post. Thank you!

            Life is hard. Life is expensive.

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            • NewParent2018
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2018
              • 5

              #21
              I feel like I'm alone in this (at least when I talk to my friends with children) but I feel like Daycare is cheaper than it should be.

              I don't mean that to sound insensitive or anything, I know the cost of childcare is a real burden for people right now but when you stop and think about what you are getting it blows my mind with how cheap it is.

              I went to a really nice daycare (the nicest I've been to anyway) and they want $1,994 per month. Yes, that is more than my mortgage but that is for 10 hours per day, five days per week childcare. 1994 * 12 months / 52 weeks per year / 50 hours per week....that works out to $9.20 per hour.

              We have a newborn. In our state the maximum ratio is 4:1 - that means $9.20 * 4 is $36.80. That's how much revenue a single employee can bring in per hour. Then start subtracting off the costs - insurance, a building, utilities, cleaning crew, toys, special activities, general maintenance, salaries and benefits and....yikes.

              I also feel like there is this weird double standard a lot of people have. When my good friend had their first child, oh man, did I hear about how incredibly difficult it was to take care of a baby. How it NEVER ENDS, how there is always something to do, how you don't get a single minutes of peace. I've known a lot of people who will admit it is less draining to go to their fancy office job than it is to spend all day watching the baby. In fact, I'll admit to that. I'm a software developer and I'm really happy to sit at a desk and type all day. It's very low stress and I come home feeling pretty good. Leave me alone with my child and I'm exhausted after that same amount of time. I'm truly grateful I'm not a single parent, we only manage as well as we do because we both toss the baby back and forth.

              But so many of these friends of mine who talk about how hard it is to raise a baby complain about the cost of daycare. They want well trained staff with lots of experience and certifications, they want the top rated daycare in the area, they want their child to have the full attention of the staff at all times.....but.....they want it for as cheap as possible.

              I dunno.

              I was blown away at how much amazing stuff this daycare had and all I could think was, 'Wow - for only $9 something an hour?'

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #22
                I just wanted to say I adore the above poster. lovethis
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Cat Herder
                  I just wanted to say I adore the above poster. lovethis
                  I agree!

                  It's refreshing to see a parent navigate the maze of parenting, working and child care so openly and honestly.

                  It benefits the child more than anyone knows when parents and caregivers can be open and honest.

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                  • Mike
                    starting daycare someday
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 2507

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    I agree!

                    It's refreshing to see a parent navigate the maze of parenting, working and child care so openly and honestly.

                    It benefits the child more than anyone knows when parents and caregivers can be open and honest.

                    When parents and caregivers understand each other and get along, children can actually enjoy getting dropped off, then also enjoy getting picked back up.

                    Parent/caregiver or mother/father, children are much happier when the adults in their life get along.
                    Children are little angels, even when they are little devils.
                    They are also our future.

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                    • Josiegirl
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 10834

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Cat Herder
                      I just wanted to say I adore the above poster. lovethis
                      Totally agree! After reading the reply they gave here and in another topic last night, about explaining why dcs charge for time off, I was thinking....wow, if only more parents felt this way!!!lovethis

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                      • Ariana
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 8969

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NewParent2018
                        I feel like I'm alone in this (at least when I talk to my friends with children) but I feel like Daycare is cheaper than it should be.

                        I don't mean that to sound insensitive or anything, I know the cost of childcare is a real burden for people right now but when you stop and think about what you are getting it blows my mind with how cheap it is.

                        I went to a really nice daycare (the nicest I've been to anyway) and they want $1,994 per month. Yes, that is more than my mortgage but that is for 10 hours per day, five days per week childcare. 1994 * 12 months / 52 weeks per year / 50 hours per week....that works out to $9.20 per hour.

                        We have a newborn. In our state the maximum ratio is 4:1 - that means $9.20 * 4 is $36.80. That's how much revenue a single employee can bring in per hour. Then start subtracting off the costs - insurance, a building, utilities, cleaning crew, toys, special activities, general maintenance, salaries and benefits and....yikes.

                        I also feel like there is this weird double standard a lot of people have. When my good friend had their first child, oh man, did I hear about how incredibly difficult it was to take care of a baby. How it NEVER ENDS, how there is always something to do, how you don't get a single minutes of peace. I've known a lot of people who will admit it is less draining to go to their fancy office job than it is to spend all day watching the baby. In fact, I'll admit to that. I'm a software developer and I'm really happy to sit at a desk and type all day. It's very low stress and I come home feeling pretty good. Leave me alone with my child and I'm exhausted after that same amount of time. I'm truly grateful I'm not a single parent, we only manage as well as we do because we both toss the baby back and forth.

                        But so many of these friends of mine who talk about how hard it is to raise a baby complain about the cost of daycare. They want well trained staff with lots of experience and certifications, they want the top rated daycare in the area, they want their child to have the full attention of the staff at all times.....but.....they want it for as cheap as possible.

                        I dunno.

                        I was blown away at how much amazing stuff this daycare had and all I could think was, 'Wow - for only $9 something an hour?'
                        . Finally a parent who gets it!

                        My husband is a software designer as well and I would not trade jobs to save my life! Some people are designed for fancy office jobs and some of us are not. I could not even imagine my child being taken care of by another person (virtual stranger) who will not be as invested in my child as I am. The money he makes is sweet to be sure but I could not do it. Before choosing Early Childhood Education I studied Cartography and Graphic Design and realized I could not sit in front of a computer all day...I would lose my mind ::

                        I once had a lady come for an interview say “I would love to have your job, this is literally my dream job to stay home, but after staying home for over a year I just need to use my brain”. Haha! Awesome!

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #27
                          Originally posted by fathimamata
                          What are you saying I am totally confused please clarify it.
                          She said that the member using the name "NewParent2018" was a great addition to this forum based on the above post in this thread (#21) and another on a different thread. She also stated that she wished more parents shared her viewpoints on childcare in general.
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Cat Herder
                            She said that the member using the name "NewParent2018" was a great addition to this forum based on the above post in this thread (#21) and another on a different thread. She also stated that she wished more parents shared her viewpoints on childcare in general.
                            They’re a Spammer

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                            • Cat Herder
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 13744

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Blackcat31
                              They’re a Spammer
                              Got it. ::::

                              If you need more help, I am available often and can be taught.
                              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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