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  • Country Kids
    Nature Lover
    • Mar 2011
    • 5051

    Doing Childcare in Second Home

    HI Ladies!

    Something has come up that I never thought I would really consider-doing childcare in another house. A darling house came up for sale three houses down from mine. We knew the owners and how it was taken care of, improvements, etc. We did a walk through last night and I love it.

    It is a four bedroom, one bath, kitchen (with laundry right there), small dining area, living room. It is dated but nothing crucial. Nice front yard, would need to work on back yard, tool shed that would be cute to be fixed up as a play house or outdoor classroom.

    Now my question-for those that have a second home what are the cons of not doing it in home, also the pros. Do you keep all the children in one room at a time or can they go into individual bedrooms? How do you stay with all the kiddo's are do you just supervise room to room?

    Thank you for any help!
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  • thrivingchildcarecom
    thrivingchildcare.com
    • Jan 2016
    • 393

    #2
    I am so jealous! In CA they don't let us do the childcare in a second home. Regs say we must reside in the home. I wish I could do it in another space and get my house back.

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    • Country Kids
      Nature Lover
      • Mar 2011
      • 5051

      #3
      I've been doing it 19 years in home. I will actually have to go up in my licensing to do this. I can have more children but do to zoning no employees. So going to have to have a strict game plan for numbers that still will give me an income and stay within ratio.
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      Never look back on regrets
      Live life to the fullest
      We only get one shot at this!!

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      • DaveA
        Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
        • Jul 2014
        • 4245

        #4
        I wanted to do it but was told no way it was legal except for a center license in IL. I suppose you could chance it and list the center house as your legal address, but I don't know if they would take that.

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        • Country Kids
          Nature Lover
          • Mar 2011
          • 5051

          #5
          Black Cat do you have any advice/answers?
          Each day is a fresh start
          Never look back on regrets
          Live life to the fullest
          We only get one shot at this!!

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          • jenboo
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 3180

            #6
            Originally posted by Country Kids
            HI Ladies!

            Something has come up that I never thought I would really consider-doing childcare in another house. A darling house came up for sale three houses down from mine. We knew the owners and how it was taken care of, improvements, etc. We did a walk through last night and I love it.

            It is a four bedroom, one bath, kitchen (with laundry right there), small dining area, living room. It is dated but nothing crucial. Nice front yard, would need to work on back yard, tool shed that would be cute to be fixed up as a play house or outdoor classroom.

            Now my question-for those that have a second home what are the cons of not doing it in home, also the pros. Do you keep all the children in one room at a time or can they go into individual bedrooms? How do you stay with all the kiddo's are do you just supervise room to room?

            Thank you for any help!
            I think the biggest thing is less tax write-offs since you don't live in the home. But if you are able to add enough kids so that it gives you a big enough income, i would do it.
            I would love to have more space. I might do it down the road.

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            • Country Kids
              Nature Lover
              • Mar 2011
              • 5051

              #7
              From what I can tell though from talking to my tax lady, everything is 100% write off except the house payment. Its all for business use, so I wouldn't have to do any time/space percentage.

              So it sounds as if it would be a better deal.
              Each day is a fresh start
              Never look back on regrets
              Live life to the fullest
              We only get one shot at this!!

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #8
                Originally posted by Country Kids
                Black Cat do you have any advice/answers?
                Sure! Anything in particular you want/need to know?

                Originally posted by jenboo
                I think the biggest thing is less tax write-offs since you don't live in the home. But if you are able to add enough kids so that it gives you a big enough income, i would do it.
                I would love to have more space. I might do it down the road.
                Actually, it's the opposite. I don't live in the home so I don't have to figure T/S %. EVERYTHING is 100% write off.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  You are welcome to PM me or e-mail (blackcat@daycare.com) if you have questions you don't want to ask openly.

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                  • AmyKidsCo
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 3786

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    Sure! Anything in particular you want/need to know?
                    Not that this is an option for me, but I'm always curious about everything...

                    You can't write off anything in your own home, can you? For instance, time/space if you're doing paperwork at home?

                    Were you always in a separate space or can you compare the finances of being in your own home vs a separate place? Every time I think about getting out of FCC I think about how much we're saving with the T/S deduction and realize it's not worth it.

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
                      Not that this is an option for me, but I'm always curious about everything...
                      Hey, no worries...I'm a "why, how" person too!

                      Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
                      You can't write off anything in your own home, can you? For instance, time/space if you're doing paperwork at home?
                      Nope. I make a point of not doing ANYTHING work related anywhere but work.

                      Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
                      Were you always in a separate space or can you compare the finances of being in your own home vs a separate place? Every time I think about getting out of FCC I think about how much we're saving with the T/S deduction and realize it's not worth it.
                      I've always had a separate home. You ladies and gents that do this in your own homes are a little cra-aazy.
                      I was a Head Start employee before I opened my own FCC.
                      I make the job change because I had that child we all vent about.

                      My expenses (in my own home) are very minimal.
                      My DH and I do nothing on credit, only buy things when we can pay cash for them and spent the first decade of our married lives paying double payments on our home so that we wouldn't have payments later.

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                      • Rockgirl
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 2204

                        #12
                        I wish we could do this in Tx! My neighbor's house is for sale, and it would be perfect.

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                        • Country Kids
                          Nature Lover
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5051

                          #13
                          I'll email you later tonight or this week if I get a chance! Thank you so much
                          Each day is a fresh start
                          Never look back on regrets
                          Live life to the fullest
                          We only get one shot at this!!

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                          • jenboo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3180

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Country Kids
                            From what I can tell though from talking to my tax lady, everything is 100% write off except the house payment. Its all for business use, so I wouldn't have to do any time/space percentage.

                            So it sounds as if it would be a better deal.
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            Sure! Anything in particular you want/need to know?



                            Actually, it's the opposite. I don't live in the home so I don't have to figure T/S %. EVERYTHING is 100% write off.
                            Originally posted by jenboo
                            I think the biggest thing is less tax write-offs since you don't live in the home. But if you are able to add enough kids so that it gives you a big enough income, i would do it.
                            I would love to have more space. I might do it down the road.
                            Ooo well that's cool!! Glad I was wrong!!

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                            • Meeko
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4351

                              #15
                              Depends on whether it is legal to do so in your state. In Utah, you must reside in the home you do daycare in.

                              We owned two homes and so we let our son live in one and we also did daycare there. He was the licensee.

                              I lived in another home.

                              We finally re-modeled our current home's basement and our daycare is self-contained down there with a separate entrance etc. We then sold the other home and our son moved back in with us.

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