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  • spedmommy4
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 935

    #16
    Originally posted by Cat Herder
    I thought it was a HIPAA violation for them to require proof.
    You might be right. The requirement for adults to disclose vaccine information applies to healthcare workers but there is no exception listed for adults in childcare settings. Hmmm . . .

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    • CityGarden
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 1667

      #17
      Interesting, thanks for the heads up.

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      • Cat Herder
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 13744

        #18
        For those of us who don't have this reg, but most likely soon will; Can you give their reasoning?

        I am hearing it is in response to the "anti-vax" movement leading to recent outbreaks. Any truth to that?
        - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          It's not a HIPAA violation.

          You (the provider) are agreeing to disclose as part of your licensing process.

          HIPAA also only applies to certain entities. It's not a blanket rule for everyone.



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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Originally posted by Cat Herder
            For those of us who don't have this reg, but most likely soon will; Can you give their reasoning?

            I am hearing it is in response to the "anti-vax" movement leading to recent outbreaks. Any truth to that?
            It doesn't necessarily explain why but here is the link to the actual bill/law change

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #21
              Thanks!
              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Taken from the author of the bill:

                "Comments:

                1) According to the author, children in day care settings have close, intimate contact with each other and with the staff who work there. Many of these children are too young to be fully immunized against potentially serious communicable diseases.

                Children who are too young to be vaccinated rely on those around them to be immunized to prevent the spread of disease (community immunity). This bill will protect children in day care by requiring those who care for them to maintain immunity.

                Some diseases, such as the flu, cause only a relative inconvenience to healthy adults. However, this same disease can require hospitalization and perhaps even be fatal in an infant or an individual with a suppressed immune system.

                Other diseases in the ACIP schedule include very serious conditions, formerly under control, that have resurfaced in recent years, including pertussis and measles.

                By requiring vaccination for pre-school workers, vulnerable children will be “cocooned” from potentially serious illness, and day care centers will be a safe and healthy place for our little ones to learn and play."

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #23
                  " For purposes of this section, “volunteer” means any nonemployee who provides care and supervision to children in care."

                  When doing background checks I was told by licensing that my husband and children, over 17, would be viewed as volunteers and required full background checks.

                  "Commencing September 1, 2016, a person shall not be employed or volunteer at a family day care home if he or she has not been immunized against influenza, pertussis, and measles. Each employee and volunteer shall receive an influenza vaccination between August 1 and December 1 of each year."

                  With that logic, would this new reg also apply? My entire family would need to update these? As long as they live under my roof and are on premises during daycare hours?

                  I don't mind doing it, just seeking clarification. Most of California's regs trickle down within 24 months...
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • spedmommy4
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 935

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Cat Herder
                    " For purposes of this section, “volunteer” means any nonemployee who provides care and supervision to children in care."

                    When doing background checks I was told by licensing that my husband and children, over 17, would be viewed as volunteers and required full background checks.

                    "Commencing September 1, 2016, a person shall not be employed or volunteer at a family day care home if he or she has not been immunized against influenza, pertussis, and measles. Each employee and volunteer shall receive an influenza vaccination between August 1 and December 1 of each year."

                    With that logic, would this new reg also apply? My entire family would need to update these? As long as they live under my roof and are on premises during daycare hours?

                    I don't mind doing it, just seeking clarification. Most of California's regs trickle down within 24 months...
                    No, I attended an information session on this before I left California. Only the licensee. If your spouse in on the license or subs, then yes. Otherwise, no. And if the provider doesn't believe in vaccinations, the bill doesn't require the provider to vaccinate his or her children.

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #25
                      a little off the topic but in the same bill:

                      An applicant for licensure as a family day care home for children shall file with the department, pursuant to its regulations, an application on forms furnished by the department, which shall include, but not be limited to, all of the following:

                      (a) A brief statement confirming that the applicant is financially secure to operate a family day care home for children. The department shall not require any other specific or detailed financial disclosure.


                      I'd be a little offended at having to state that I am or am not financially secure :confused: not to mention that is a fairly broad statement but one I find laughable... wonder how they would decide/enforce something like that? ::

                      Sorry current residents but California is weird.

                      Just sayin'

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                      • CalCare
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 665

                        #26
                        For that last one (BC), we are just supposed to say yes, we are financially secure. They don't get any evidence for it.

                        For the SB792, I think it's ludicrous. They're saying we can't do our jobs unless they get to inject us with whatever they want- no say from us. Look, I vaccinate my kids, but just the principle of this bill is insane to me. I wrote Das Williams, my assemblyman, and I didn't do anything else But what could we do? My friends got signatures on petitions. It didn't do anything. People saw it as those crazies who don't believe in vaccinating. No one sees that this is the government mandating people to get injections with no outs. There are no religious or philosophical exemptions. If you want to work in the profession you have spent your life in- years of education, years of experience, you are forced to get injections. It honestly blows my mind!

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                        • sharlan
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 6067

                          #27
                          Originally posted by spedmommy4
                          No, I attended an information session on this before I left California. Only the licensee. If your spouse in on the license or subs, then yes. Otherwise, no. And if the provider doesn't believe in vaccinations, the bill doesn't require the provider to vaccinate his or her children.
                          I was told yesterday that everyone who "comes in contact" with the kids needed to be immunized.

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                          • sharlan
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 6067

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            a little off the topic but in the same bill:

                            An applicant for licensure as a family day care home for children shall file with the department, pursuant to its regulations, an application on forms furnished by the department, which shall include, but not be limited to, all of the following:

                            (a) A brief statement confirming that the applicant is financially secure to operate a family day care home for children. The department shall not require any other specific or detailed financial disclosure.


                            I'd be a little offended at having to state that I am or am not financially secure :confused: not to mention that is a fairly broad statement but one I find laughable... wonder how they would decide/enforce something like that? ::

                            Sorry current residents but California is weird.

                            Just sayin'
                            I was told that the purpose for this is to make sure that providers are able to provide food and other needs of the children. My refrigerator and pantry were inspected when I got my first license 25 years ago.

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                            • sharlan
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 6067

                              #29
                              Yes, CA is definitely unique in it's licensing.

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                              • sharlan
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 6067

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Cat Herder
                                [I]" For purposes of this section, “volunteer” means any nonemployee who provides care and supervision to children in care." [/I]

                                When doing background checks I was told by licensing that my husband and children, over 17, would be viewed as volunteers and required full background checks.

                                "Commencing September 1, 2016, a person shall not be employed or volunteer at a family day care home if he or she has not been immunized against influenza, pertussis, and measles. Each employee and volunteer shall receive an influenza vaccination between August 1 and December 1 of each year."

                                With that logic, would this new reg also apply? My entire family would need to update these? As long as they live under my roof and are on premises during daycare hours?

                                I don't mind doing it, just seeking clarification. Most of California's regs trickle down within 24 months...

                                Yes, anyone who comes in regular contact with the kids.

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