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  • Unregistered

    Religious Exemption

    Hello, do any of you have a religious exempt daycare? I am trying to find out more information.

    My states says...
    A special school or class in which more than 75 percent of the time that children are present is spent in religious instruction. Religious instruction is defined to include such developmentally appropriate ch
    ildren's activities as worship, singing religious songs, listening to religious stories, learning and practicing religious cultural activities, and participating in religious celebrations

    I would like to use bekabook curriculum to help achieve the 75%.


    I would love any help I can get!
  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Hello, do any of you have a religious exempt daycare? I am trying to find out more information.

    My states says...
    A special school or class in which more than 75 percent of the time that children are present is spent in religious instruction. Religious instruction is defined to include such developmentally appropriate ch
    ildren's activities as worship, singing religious songs, listening to religious stories, learning and practicing religious cultural activities, and participating in religious celebrations

    I would like to use bekabook curriculum to help achieve the 75%.


    I would love any help I can get!
    Can I ask why you are trying to be religiously exempt?

    Why not just operate a religious based program?

    What state are you in?

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    • Unregistered

      #3
      Exempt from licensing?

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      • Cat Herder
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 13744

        #4
        I can tell you there is a huge resentment of this tax and oversight loophole.

        I hope to see it gone in my lifetime.

        IMHO, If you are charging for daycare, you should be treated the same as any other daycare option.
        - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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        • daycarediva
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 11698

          #5
          Originally posted by Cat Herder
          I can tell you there is a huge resentment of this tax and oversight loophole.

          I hope to see it gone in my lifetime.

          IMHO, If you are charging for daycare, you should be treated the same as any other daycare option.


          There is a christian preschool near me. Not licensed, tax free. It is so over ratio it's ridiculous, very poor quality. It achieves it's time by having only biblical toys, stories, movies and songs.

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          • Mariahsaint
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 72

            #6
            Originally posted by Cat Herder
            I can tell you there is a huge resentment of this tax and oversight loophole.

            I hope to see it gone in my lifetime.

            IMHO, If you are charging for daycare, you should be treated the same as any other daycare option.
            Agreed.

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            • Controlled Chaos
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2014
              • 2108

              #7
              I have a lovely 15 year old who babysits my children when DH and I go out. She keeps bugging me to hire her as my assistant this summer, but I can't as she isn't 16 yet. Otherwise I would love to have a helper and give her some good work experience.

              This is on topic - because the place her mom works (a religious daycare center) regularly hires 14 and 15yo "helpers" and doesn't have to worry about licensing rules and pays them less that min wage under the table. Its frustrating.

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              • Unregistered

                #8
                Here you are still required to have a backgound check and I believe there is still ratios in place.
                I would be opening a early learning program, offering Early Preschool, preschool, PreK and Kindergarten.
                I am not trying to get out of following any rules or having a ton of kids. Probably just a few per class.

                I would still pay all taxes, take classes, etc. I am hoping to become non-profit and charge on a sliding scale or offer tuition.

                This is not for me to make a huge amount of money, or get around rules, but to do what I love!

                Still looking for help, if anyone has any information. I know there are only a handful of states that offer this exemption.

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                • Unregistered

                  #9
                  Yes, there is plenty of people out there that take advantage of this, I understand that. This is not my intention.
                  I will stay within ratios
                  I will pay taxes
                  I will get a background check, and will require any helpers/employees to do the same
                  I will follow rules/regulations
                  I WILL operate a quality program.

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                  • Cat Herder
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 13744

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    Yes, there is plenty of people out there that take advantage of this, I understand that. This is not my intention.
                    I will stay within ratios
                    I will pay taxes
                    I will get a background check, and will require any helpers/employees to do the same
                    I will follow rules/regulations
                    I WILL operate a quality program.
                    Then what, exactly, are you seeking an exemption for? :confused:

                    I do offer a christian preschool program as a legally licensed home daycare. No exemption application required.
                    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                    • EntropyControlSpecialist
                      Embracing the chaos.
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7466

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cat Herder
                      Then what, exactly, are you seeking an exemption for? :confused:

                      I do offer a christian preschool program as a legally licensed home daycare. No exemption application required.
                      Same.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #12
                        I have nothing against holding a license, I just wanted to see what information out there on it, and if others had done it.

                        I have yet to see any of that, and instead a whole lot of people assuming I'm trying to break rules.

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                        • Thriftylady
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 5884

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          I have nothing against holding a license, I just wanted to see what information out there on it, and if others had done it.

                          I have yet to see any of that, and instead a whole lot of people assuming I'm trying to break rules.
                          I don't assume you are trying to break rules. I am a legally unlicensed provider, quite a few of us here are. I think my by question is why bother with it. It sounds to me like it would be far more hassle to prove that you are exempt than to just follow the licensing means. Proving all that sounds like a nightmare to me.

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                          • LysesKids
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 2836

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            Hello, do any of you have a religious exempt daycare? I am trying to find out more information.

                            My states says...
                            A special school or class in which more than 75 percent of the time that children are present is spent in religious instruction. Religious instruction is defined to include such developmentally appropriate ch
                            ildren's activities as worship, singing religious songs, listening to religious stories, learning and practicing religious cultural activities, and participating in religious celebrations

                            I would like to use bekabook curriculum to help achieve the 75%.


                            I would love any help I can get!
                            If you plan on paying taxes & going thru background checks, why Religious exemption? Most churches/religions try to be exempt to avoid taxes and all the government intervention, like 501 type. Just go licensed and offer instruction if you plan on jumping all the state hoops.

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                            • Cat Herder
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 13744

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              I have nothing against holding a license, I just wanted to see what information out there on it, and if others had done it.

                              I have yet to see any of that, and instead a whole lot of people assuming I'm trying to break rules.
                              I think you may be taking a general statement and direct question as an accusation. I told you why Religious Exemption (a tax and oversight free loophole) is disfavored and asked why you want to do it. You stated that you want oversight and to pay taxes. That is the opposite of Religious exemption. :confused:

                              We are not having the same conversation it seems. We are already free to offer a religious program of our choosing.

                              Why are you seeking to be exempt? Exempt from what specifically? We can't advise you the best way to go without knowing your goal.
                              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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