Father Accuses Daycare Employee of Locking Child in Closet

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  • sleepinghart
    Daycare.com Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 293

    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    It wouldn't be right if I seen this and didn't fill the individuals in on what they have probably not seen. I am very good friends with one of the investigators on this case for the state. The one piece you are unaware of is that initially the teacher locks the door with the cold in there. Another teacher about 5 minutes later comes over and unlocks the door but never opens it. There's ALOT of holes in the initial reports that the teachers provided. Also it is a fact that the child was completely covered in his vomit. That was also disclosed in reports along with seeing the teachers clean it out of the closet after the father left the room with his child. This one could get ugly.
    So if this is the case, then why was it ruled an accident? Why did law enforcement officials say that what happened wasn't a crime and why did sheriffs officials say they've passed the case to the state agency who oversees daycares because they typically handle incidents ruled accidental:confused:?

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    • Unregistered

      #17
      Why did law enforcement rule it accidental? I can't comment on that. I live in Fulton County and I am unfamiliar with Cumming Law Enforcement. I will say if they're anything like Fulton county LEO then a comprehensive investigation probably wasn't conducted. Case's like this one doesn't seem to have an obvious crime committed to the untrained eye. This would mean that someone would actually have to put in alittle effort and most Law Enforcement personnel are over worked and under paid.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        It wouldn't be right if I seen this and didn't fill the individuals in on what they have probably not seen. I am very good friends with one of the investigators on this case for the state. The one piece you are unaware of is that initially the teacher locks the door with the cold in there. Another teacher about 5 minutes later comes over and unlocks the door but never opens it. There's ALOT of holes in the initial reports that the teachers provided. Also it is a fact that the child was completely covered in his vomit. That was also disclosed in reports along with seeing the teachers clean it out of the closet after the father left the room with his child. This one could get ugly.
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Why did law enforcement rule it accidental? I can't comment on that. I live in Fulton County and I am unfamiliar with Cumming Law Enforcement. I will say if they're anything like Fulton county LEO then a comprehensive investigation probably wasn't conducted. Case's like this one doesn't seem to have an obvious crime committed to the untrained eye. This would mean that someone would actually have to put in alittle effort and most Law Enforcement personnel are over worked and under paid.
        Why is a state investigator sharing details of an open/ongoing investigation with a friend? :confused:

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        • MunchkinWrangler
          New Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 777

          #19
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          Why is a state investigator sharing details of an open/ongoing investigation with a friend? :confused:
          I agree. I am in law classes and that is a huge conflict of interest and against the code of ethics, especially for such a public and ongoing case. :confused:

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          • sleepinghart
            Daycare.com Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 293

            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            It wouldn't be right if I seen this and didn't fill the individuals in on what they have probably not seen. I am very good friends with one of the investigators on this case for the state. The one piece you are unaware of is that initially the teacher locks the door with the cold in there. Another teacher about 5 minutes later comes over and unlocks the door but never opens it. There's ALOT of holes in the initial reports that the teachers provided. Also it is a fact that the child was completely covered in his vomit. That was also disclosed in reports along with seeing the teachers clean it out of the closet after the father left the room with his child. This one could get ugly.
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            Why did law enforcement rule it accidental? I can't comment on that. I live in Fulton County and I am unfamiliar with Cumming Law Enforcement. I will say if they're anything like Fulton county LEO then a comprehensive investigation probably wasn't conducted. Case's like this one doesn't seem to have an obvious crime committed to the untrained eye. This would mean that someone would actually have to put in alittle effort and most Law Enforcement personnel are over worked and under paid.
            (^bolding^ by me)
            ~But if one teacher locked the door and another teacher about 5 minutes later comes over and unlocks the door but never opens it & there were a lot of holes in the initial reports teachers provided then it looks like there is no work to be done(or it has already been done), because they know about these things...I mean, according to you, or your source, the police know enough to rule it non-accidental(if all these things are correct). So, I still don't understand how or why they would have ruled it accidental knowing all this. An "untrained eye" scenario doesn't fit here either because once again, they reportedly know about these details, they were not overlooked. If they went through the trouble of finding out these details, then it looks to me like a pretty thorough investigation was done- So again, if this is the case, I can't understand their ruling of "accidental"...It just doesn't make any sense:confused:.

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            • Ariana
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 8969

              #21
              So essentially what we are viewing is edited material?

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              • Meeko
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 4349

                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered
                It wouldn't be right if I seen this and didn't fill the individuals in on what they have probably not seen. I am very good friends with one of the investigators on this case for the state. The one piece you are unaware of is that initially the teacher locks the door with the cold in there. Another teacher about 5 minutes later comes over and unlocks the door but never opens it. There's ALOT of holes in the initial reports that the teachers provided. Also it is a fact that the child was completely covered in his vomit. That was also disclosed in reports along with seeing the teachers clean it out of the closet after the father left the room with his child. This one could get ugly.
                The story with all the holes...is this one



                It has already been investigated and deemed an accident by both police and state licensing. There is nothing sinister going on and law enforcement or the state wouldn't be sharing info with a "friend" if it was an ongoing case. Not if they want to keep their job.
                Attached Files

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                • Play Care
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 6642

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Meeko
                  The story with all the holes...is this one



                  It has already been investigated and deemed an accident by both police and state licensing. There is nothing sinister going on and law enforcement or the state wouldn't be sharing info with a "friend" if it was an ongoing case. Not if they want to keep their job.
                  This. Child care providers are *never* given the benefit of the doubt. The prosecution and public are always ready to crucify us the second a story comes out. The DA's office usually will try for several charges in hopes of getting ONE to stick.

                  So I find it hard to believe that there is more that they are holding back, especially at this point when it's already been ruled accidental. I mean, if they if think they have a smidge of a case, they go after it with guns blazing.

                  Any things possible, of course. But it seems unlikely given past trends.

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                  • Thriftylady
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 5884

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Meeko
                    The story with all the holes...is this one



                    It has already been investigated and deemed an accident by both police and state licensing. There is nothing sinister going on and law enforcement or the state wouldn't be sharing info with a "friend" if it was an ongoing case. Not if they want to keep their job.
                    More holes than swiss cheese after a mouse got it!

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                    • sleepinghart
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 293

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ariana
                      So essentially what we are viewing is edited material?
                      ~...edited material:confused:?

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                      • sleepinghart
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 293

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Play Care
                        This. Child care providers are *never* given the benefit of the doubt. The prosecution and public are always ready to crucify us the second a story comes out. The DA's office usually will try for several charges in hopes of getting ONE to stick.

                        So I find it hard to believe that there is more that they are holding back, especially at this point when it's already been ruled accidental. I mean, if they if think they have a smidge of a case, they go after it with guns blazing.

                        Any things possible, of course. But it seems unlikely given past trends.
                        (^bolding^ by me)
                        ~...'Shore does!

                        ~Anyway, another excellent point!

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