New Idea to Daycare

[Thriftylady]

How is the nanny going to be their own contractor?

What State can you have a building where multiple children are on site all day with child care providers caring for them where they don't have to follow center regulations for that state?

You could meet up at Chuckie Cheese I suppose... but if you have children in a building anywhere where the purpose is to care for the kids.... center regs apply in every state.

You also assume the "nanny" will just take a family that chooses them. There's an interview process and she has to accept them.

This isn't a new idea... it's a parent fantasy idea with a little technology thrown in.

The cost of this would be through the roof and the liability to the owners of the building would be sky high to the heavens.

Totally agree with this. There is NO way I would take on the liability. And as a parent, the what ifs would drive me away. A large group of kids and just as large of group of caregivers? Sounds like an accident looking for a place to happen.

[SnowGirl]

Brainstorming here...

I think the biggest issue you're running into is the idea that parents can contract a nanny and a room in a building. There are simply too many state regulations (in pretty much all 50 states) to make this at all profitable, if not a downright loss to the owner of this business.

However, if you scale back the idea a little bit, I can see something like this being very appealing to younger parents.

As owner/director, you would hire all the staff and teachers. You could run the place like a drop-in center. The app that parents access could allow them to book the teacher they prefer (so like you said, it says that Miss Lucy is available on Tuesday evening, you book the slot for your child, and then you have drop in care ready for your date night). That way, the parent can have the comfort of the control of choosing their preferred teacher (if that teacher is available of course), and the director can hire and manage the employees. The care isn't one-to-one, it's still large group, making the business model feasible. The app appeals to younger parents and allows them more "control" without it being too much control.

[Snowmom]

We think there is a market there to serve. Maybe it's both parents are working and do not want their house to be used by a baby sitter and prefer to use the flexibility of a center. The nannies will be contractors setting their own time and availability. Our App or website will connect the parents to the nannies.
Let's say Sue is a busy working mom to a 4 month old baby Tom, and is looking for a date night w. her husband. She quickly pops our App, and sees that Anna is available from 6pm-8:30pm. She taps her profile and sees that she has several positive reviews.
Anna stops by and picks up Tom and she's able to view on the App if Tom has any allergies etc. Diapers, formula and food is to be provided by the center.
We understand it will be expensive but it's a niche market and the idea is still rough.

With this scenario:
So, is Anna, the independent contractor, just sitting around waiting to see if anyone books her? I'm assuming since you said she's independent, that she isn't getting paid unless she's booked?
I see lots of turnover happening with that unless you're crazy busy, all the time.
And if you DO become crazy busy:
What happens in the case of overlapping times? Having parents show up late is bound to happen. I see negative reviews coming Anna's way if she can't start at the reserved time.

[NillaWafers]

Brainstorming here...

I think the biggest issue you're running into is the idea that parents can contract a nanny and a room in a building. There are simply too many state regulations (in pretty much all 50 states) to make this at all profitable, if not a downright loss to the owner of this business.

However, if you scale back the idea a little bit, I can see something like this being very appealing to younger parents.

As owner/director, you would hire all the staff and teachers. You could run the place like a drop-in center. The app that parents access could allow them to book the teacher they prefer (so like you said, it says that Miss Lucy is available on Tuesday evening, you book the slot for your child, and then you have drop in care ready for your date night). That way, the parent can have the comfort of the control of choosing their preferred teacher (if that teacher is available of course), and the director can hire and manage the employees. The care isn't one-to-one, it's still large group, making the business model feasible. The app appeals to younger parents and allows them more "control" without it being too much control.

That could work. That's the only way it could work. As a former nanny, I would never want to care for children who's parents I had just met. It's a two-way process. What if our discipline styles varied? I just don't see it working out.

But the selling point of this all is really using an app to book a night out, daycare, or anything else. That could work in a typical center, with employees you employ, interview, and certify. I would totally think about using a service like that.

Contracting nannies is too much of a pain, and its a turnoff to parents IMO.

[NeedaVaca]

We think there is a market there to serve. Maybe it's both parents are working and do not want their house to be used by a baby sitter and prefer to use the flexibility of a center. The nannies will be contractors setting their own time and availability. Our App or website will connect the parents to the nannies.
Let's say Sue is a busy working mom to a 4 month old baby Tom, and is looking for a date night w. her husband. She quickly pops our App, and sees that Anna is available from 6pm-8:30pm. She taps her profile and sees that she has several positive reviews.
Anna stops by and picks up Tom and she's able to view on the App if Tom has any allergies etc. Diapers, formula and food is to be provided by the center.
We understand it will be expensive but it's a niche market and the idea is still rough.

Parents have very specific brands they like for their children. So your facility will have every size of every diaper on the market including cloth diapers as well as every brand of formula on the market? Who prepares the food? The nanny or a cook that is there all day? Cook to order for every child or set meal times? Allergies? Will this cook or nanny be able to accommodate all of the different kinds of allergies these children could have with no chance of cross contamination? How would you keep fresh food stocked without knowing how many kids you will have every day if people can decide at the last minute to use the service?

Most of the people I know that hire babysitters for a date night are out past 8:30, dinner and a movie puts them well past 10 which is past bedtime for these kids.

[Jazzii]

Parents have very specific brands they like for their children. So your facility will have every size of every diaper on the market including cloth diapers as well as every brand of formula on the market? Who prepares the food? The nanny or a cook that is there all day? Cook to order for every child or set meal times? Allergies? Will this cook or nanny be able to accommodate all of the different kinds of allergies these children could have with no chance of cross contamination? How would you keep fresh food stocked without knowing how many kids you will have every day if people can decide at the last minute to use the service?

Most of the people I know that hire babysitters for a date night are out past 8:30, dinner and a movie puts them well past 10 which is past bedtime for these kids.

My daycare provides all food and baby cereal/jars.

Parents bring in PREPARED bottles and if they have specific dietary needs they bring that in to (like we have a holistic all organic mom) and unless their child has a wipe sensitivity, parents bring in a pack (either refill or box) of wipes and we use these as communal supplies

Because we are open so late we provide dinner and evening snack as well and if a child has to go to bed we put them down in a crib or mat at 8/83 . When this is the case we have parents bring in pajamas

[Ariana]

How is the nanny going to be their own contractor?

What State can you have a building where multiple children are on site all day with child care providers caring for them where they don't have to follow center regulations for that state?

You could meet up at Chuckie Cheese I suppose... but if you have children in a building anywhere where the purpose is to care for the kids.... center regs apply in every state.

You also assume the "nanny" will just take a family that chooses them. There's an interview process and she has to accept them.

This isn't a new idea... it's a parent fantasy idea with a little technology thrown in.

The cost of this would be through the roof and the liability to the owners of the building would be sky high to the heavens.

Agree 100%

This is clearly someone who has never worked in a centre and has never worked with children. An interesting business idea for sure but this isn't Uber or renting out space to a hairdresser where everyone is responsible for themselves as adults. Once there are children involved the regulations are very heavy handed, not to memtion the logistical and financial nightmare this would cause.

[Laurel]

Brainstorming here...

I think the biggest issue you're running into is the idea that parents can contract a nanny and a room in a building. There are simply too many state regulations (in pretty much all 50 states) to make this at all profitable, if not a downright loss to the owner of this business.

However, if you scale back the idea a little bit, I can see something like this being very appealing to younger parents.

As owner/director, you would hire all the staff and teachers. You could run the place like a drop-in center. The app that parents access could allow them to book the teacher they prefer (so like you said, it says that Miss Lucy is available on Tuesday evening, you book the slot for your child, and then you have drop in care ready for your date night). That way, the parent can have the comfort of the control of choosing their preferred teacher (if that teacher is available of course), and the director can hire and manage the employees. The care isn't one-to-one, it's still large group, making the business model feasible. The app appeals to younger parents and allows them more "control" without it being too much control.

This idea could work. I was visualizing all day care and that just seems impossible. But drop-in date night or mom's day out might work.

We have a drop-in center in our area. You don't pick the caregivers but they are open day and night. They are very expensive but I had a parent use it once when I was sick.

[daycarediva]

You would have to follow center regulations including having a director, assistant director, and staff on site for substitute directors.

You would basically have to pay the wages to the director and all required staff PLUS pay the employer portion of each "nanny" used... that is a huge amount of money.

You would have to find a director, assistant director etc who was willing to have her salary paid by multiple parents based on use.

You are talking about employees working under someone who is not their employer and who could change as soon as the participating parents decided they wanted a different director.

Then you would have to pay for the physical setting, repairs, cleaning, and inventory. The utilities and all common use items. You would have to have a state approved kitchen and refrigerators. The grease trap alone in your building could cost tens of thousands of dollars depending on the current state and city requirements. You would also have to pay for the sprinkler system, camera system (very expensive to maintain) and the fire marshall requirements including dedicated land lines for the sprinkler system.

First find out how a center runs and then take it from there.

Parents don't realize that housing in both home and center based care is the biggest expense.

Then the nanny share... she won't be able to legally do mixed age groups so you will have multiple nannies who have to be switched out nearly every year of every kid you have. She can also turn down your business so she will only keep the highest paying clients with the easiest kids. The competition would drive her to switch out clients for the better deal.

Since you employ her you get to pay into unemployment so when your kid ages out of her age group and she can't find or doesn't want a replacement, you get to keep paying her a portion of her salary till she does.

If you did a parent co-operative in your own homes you could avoid most of that except for the employer portion of taxes.

That's the traditional nanny share in your home.

Aint gonna work. No way no how. It would be so expensive you could have your own nanny instead of paying your portion of the above.

We think there is a market there to serve. Maybe it's both parents are working and do not want their house to be used by a baby sitter and prefer to use the flexibility of a center. The nannies will be contractors setting their own time and availability. Our App or website will connect the parents to the nannies.
Let's say Sue is a busy working mom to a 4 month old baby Tom, and is looking for a date night w. her husband. She quickly pops our App, and sees that Anna is available from 6pm-8:30pm. She taps her profile and sees that she has several positive reviews.
Anna stops by and picks up Tom and she's able to view on the App if Tom has any allergies etc. Diapers, formula and food is to be provided by the center.
We understand it will be expensive but it's a niche market and the idea is still rough.

so basically care.com but with more responsibility on the nanny. Car insurance for those nannies is going to cost a fortune. and if it's at night, the centers insurance is going to cost a fortune. HOw are you going to market this so that it is affordable. PLUS will a parents really just leave their child with someone they have never met based on reviews. Do you know how many FAKE yelp reviews there are. No one post the bad stuff or they wouldn't be posting it.

Who is paying for the building?
Who owns/rents the space?
It will have to be licensed as a child care facility? If so- it will require a director. Who will pay the director's salary?
All 'nannies' will be required to have CPR/FIRST AID/AED, (AED machine will need to be on site- those are thousands)
equipment, cribs, tables, food, paper towels, toilet paper, food? Who buys these items?
A Nanny picking up a child? oh my the insurance alone, plus the car seat safety aspect?
Gas, electric, water....
Nannies won't want to be 'on call', most want FT employment.
licensing ratios/safety


I could go on and on and on... Call your local licensing agency and ask them.

In all honesty, it sounds like you AT MOST, will be able to operate a 24/hour drop in facility. Parents wont be able to chose their caregiver, but that is a HUGE niche market that will be full in pretty much any area.