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  • Thriftylady
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 5884

    #16
    Oh I didn't catch that she was in Canada! Well that could change things. I know nothing about their tax laws.

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    • Ariana
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 8969

      #17
      Yes true I am in Canada and it does work a bit differently I *think*. I think here it is all dependent on income. The spouse with the higher income can claim but if they make too much they can transfer it to the lower income spouse. I am not sure if this still works in divorced situations or what though. Either way this happened a few years ago and luckily none of my current parents are divorced....yet! ::

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      • midaycare
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 5658

        #18
        The divorce decree often states who gets to claim it, but I would give it only to the parent to paid, and let the parents work it out. For example, even though DH paid for DSD, BM could claim daycare expenses. But...who wants to get involved in all that?

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          Originally posted by Ariana
          Yes true I am in Canada and it does work a bit differently I *think*. I think here it is all dependent on income. The spouse with the higher income can claim but if they make too much they can transfer it to the lower income spouse. I am not sure if this still works in divorced situations or what though. Either way this happened a few years ago and luckily none of my current parents are divorced....yet! ::
          Your laws are weird...::

          It says you are suppose to give a receipt for EACH child? So if a family has 3 kids, you have to separate it out?

          That's rough.

          Curious, but are you required by law to issue end of the year statements of total amount paid or do you just have to issue your tax id # and no tally if you don't want to?

          The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) administers tax laws for the government, providing contacts, services, and information related to payments, taxes, and benefits for individuals and businesses.

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          • knoxmomof2
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • May 2014
            • 398

            #20
            Me again. She's claiming she waived child support in lieu of him paying childcare and they alternate years on claiming. I realize that the details are not my concern, but I'm trying to cover my butt here either way. I asked DCD if he cared whether or not she has them (because that would be the easiest route here) and he doesn't want her to.

            She's playing dumb that her asking me for HIS account records isn't wrong. Before talking to him, I offered to contact him for her and she just asked why it was an issue. When I mentioned how I needed to make sure I wasn't putting myself in a situation for legal issues or fines, it was like I had three heads... I can't seem to find any factual backing/ proof/ law that says that it's wrong for me to do so, but it's common sense. Is there any way I would be required to provide this to her?

            I know we're not required to provide anything, but since this document exists... Any thoughts? I just want to do the right thing here and know what to do in future cases.

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            • mommyneedsadayoff
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 1754

              #21
              Originally posted by knoxmomof2
              Me again. She's claiming she waived child support in lieu of him paying childcare and they alternate years on claiming. I realize that the details are not my concern, but I'm trying to cover my butt here either way. I asked DCD if he cared whether or not she has them (because that would be the easiest route here) and he doesn't want her to.

              She's playing dumb that her asking me for HIS account records isn't wrong. Before talking to him, I offered to contact him for her and she just asked why it was an issue. When I mentioned how I needed to make sure I wasn't putting myself in a situation for legal issues or fines, it was like I had three heads... I can't seem to find any factual backing/ proof/ law that says that it's wrong for me to do so, but it's common sense. Is there any way I would be required to provide this to her?

              I know we're not required to provide anything, but since this document exists... Any thoughts? I just want to do the right thing here and know what to do in future cases.
              Just tell her that her agreement on claiming is between her and dad, so she needs to get it from him. Just say that you have your own policy on sharing financial information, that being, you don't share it with anyone but the person who pays.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by knoxmomof2
                Me again. She's claiming she waived child support in lieu of him paying childcare and they alternate years on claiming. I realize that the details are not my concern, but I'm trying to cover my butt here either way. I asked DCD if he cared whether or not she has them (because that would be the easiest route here) and he doesn't want her to.

                She's playing dumb that her asking me for HIS account records isn't wrong. Before talking to him, I offered to contact him for her and she just asked why it was an issue. When I mentioned how I needed to make sure I wasn't putting myself in a situation for legal issues or fines, it was like I had three heads... I can't seem to find any factual backing/ proof/ law that says that it's wrong for me to do so, but it's common sense. Is there any way I would be required to provide this to her?

                I know we're not required to provide anything, but since this document exists... Any thoughts? I just want to do the right thing here and know what to do in future cases.
                I would just stay out of it.

                You gave the payment info to the person who paid you.

                You did your part. End of story.

                If she has documentation stating they share who claims when and why etc etc...SHE needs to take it up with HIM.

                You play no further role in this.

                SHE needs to enforce her own document or take it to the courts that will.

                Again, YOU play NO role in that. You are NOT obligated or required to provider ANYTHING to her in regards to HIS financial payments. Even if she shows you the paperwork, its not meant for YOU to decipher or uphold. That is what her lawyer will do for her.

                If she continues to ask, I would simply continue to reply that you gave each parent THEIR payment history/forms etc (W10) and that you are not part of the continuing issue SHE is having.

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #23
                  "I am sorry. My hands are tied. You will need to get the receipt from Dad, yourself, if you want it. It will be the exact same next year, unless you are the one to pay. Let me know what the two of you work out. Also, I need you to stop putting me in the middle of this. It has nothing to do with me and is causing conflict. Stop as of today. Thanks."
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • Cat Herder
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 13744

                    #24
                    If you want to be **helpful** google "form 8332 pdf", print a couple for her, highlight the instructions and wish her good luck. ::
                    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                    • knoxmomof2
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 398

                      #25
                      Once again, thanks Ladies. Now I know 1 more thing to address with future split couples.

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                      • knoxmomof2
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 398

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Cat Herder
                        If you want to be **helpful** google "form 8332 pdf", print a couple for her, highlight the instructions and wish her good luck. ::
                        I like your style

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #27
                          Originally posted by knoxmomof2
                          I like your style
                          Me too! lovethis

                          Her posts, viewpoint, interpretation of things and her sense of humor sometimes "make my day!"



                          ...and make me feel a little less different.

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                          • knoxmomof2
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 398

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            Me too! lovethis

                            Her posts, viewpoint, interpretation of things and her sense of humor sometimes "make my day!"



                            ...and make me feel a little less different.
                            Right!

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                            • lovemydaycare0912
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 756

                              #29
                              This is all good information. Thanks for sharing.

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                              • Renae82
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 30

                                #30
                                Originally posted by knoxmomof2
                                Me again. She's claiming she waived child support in lieu of him paying childcare and they alternate years on claiming. I realize that the details are not my concern, but I'm trying to cover my butt here either way. I asked DCD if he cared whether or not she has them (because that would be the easiest route here) and he doesn't want her to.

                                She's playing dumb that her asking me for HIS account records isn't wrong. Before talking to him, I offered to contact him for her and she just asked why it was an issue. When I mentioned how I needed to make sure I wasn't putting myself in a situation for legal issues or fines, it was like I had three heads... I can't seem to find any factual backing/ proof/ law that says that it's wrong for me to do so, but it's common sense. Is there any way I would be required to provide this to her?

                                I know we're not required to provide anything, but since this document exists... Any thoughts? I just want to do the right thing here and know what to do in future cases.
                                Sounds like you already have an answer here but I agree with the majority here. I only give a receipt to the person who handed me the money. I had a similar issue, dad paid me sometimes and mom paid me sometimes. They each got a receipt for what they gave me. Mom wanted a receipt for all of it. I told her that was between them and she was welcome to ask him for his and claim it if that's what they agreed on. I also told her from then on I would only accept payment from her as I was contracted with her.

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