Pre K

[nannyde]

as of now, the children who qualify for "free" preschool ARE enrolled based on economic need. ask anyone who has ever tried to get their child into preschool and were told they make too much money. at least that's generally the case.

i don't doubt there are some private preschools that are owned by qualified people, but as we were talking about - only the people who have the $$ typically have the access to those preschools. the other children have access to preschools supplied to them in a list based on who accepts child care subsidies. as usual, it is the middle class and their children who get screwed on the deal.

Qual

I think he's in New York.... the reference to the lottery system makes me think that.

[prioritizepre-k]

Qual

I think he's in New York.... the reference to the lottery system makes me think that.

she and yes i'm from new york

[AmandasFCC]

I'll put that in the q

I found this link on your site: http://www.hoover.org/publications/books/8138



I likey Mr Finn Jr

I wish he could come to my house and see about my kids. There's an answer to this and it's not so complicated after all.

I said it before. I'll say it again:

Kids need an early childhood of close proximal supervision, excellent nutrition, free play, outdoor exercise, GOOD DEEP SLEEP, discipline, and affection. They need good CARE. If they have an early childhood of good care they will be great students. Good care CAN include "education" but it will not further them academically.

At the age of five/six the kids are ready for academics. For hundreds of years we have understood this is the age to begin their "education". Nothing has changed with this generation of students. They aren't more evolved at two/three/four then they were a hundred years ago. You can't cheat mother nature. We are humans and human babies and toddlers don't prosper from early "education". They prosper from good care in the areas I listed above.

We HAVE to get back to the basics. We aren't doing better after a couple of decades of "early education". We are failing our children because we aren't supporting what REALLY matters in raising quality kids.

Is there a like button?

[dEHmom]

Is there a like button?

I've asked the same thing!

[QualiTcare]

That is not true in all states. In my state, enrollment is NOT based on economic need. The program is not universal and those most in need CAN AND ARE being shut out of programs.

Re the middle class - we all need to make choices in our life. We choose to have children, we choose to spend our money in many ways, big cars, big homes, vacations, pedicures, manicure, movies etc. The middle class does not get screwed. They make choices. Our government should not be creating middle class entitlement programs. They should be supporting families who, due to various circumstances, find themselves without choice because they are struggling just to put food on the table. Middle class people need to prioritize and ask themselves - do I get pedicures, drive a big gas guzzling suv, go on vacations or provide preschool to my child.

That is the reality of what is happening in my area. Those that can well afford to pay for preschool are getting into programs while others are shut out. Many are going to the gym, getting pedicures, shopping etc while their children are attending these programs that you and I are paying for. At what point does government entitlement end and personal responsibility begin?Districts can't even afford to maintain their K-12 programs - we shouldn't be putting more of a burden on them by expanding their responsibilities. We should be helping them to maintain what they have.

i just find it hilarious that you direct that toward the middle class. i personally find it disgusting that every female in tennessee who gets knocked up and doesn't work gets free healthcare for the rest of their lives practically along with food stamps, housing, PRE-K, etc. etc. and countless WORKING people can't go to the hospital when they're really, really sick because they can't afford insurance. they don't need to work, why would they? they're better off NOT working. they're not REALLY poor "due to various circumstances." most of them are shacked up with a boyfriend who works and they just don't report it to the govt. so they can keep getting all the bonuses like free food, free rent, free healthcare.

i don't think expanding pre-k so that children whose parents make "too much" (and YES three dollars over the limit is LITERALLY considered TOO MUCH)would be considered "creating entitlement programs for the middle class."

anyhow, what's the issue? are you afraid your preschool would go under if preschool were offered to all children? school is offered to all children and people still choose to send their children to private schools.

[Michael]

Welcome to the Daycare.com Forum prioritizepre-k. I can see your already highly engaged.

[QualiTcare]

I've asked the same thing!

i asked michael to make one, but he said he's not smart enough.

juuuust kidding!

i did ask though after i saw ppl say that - like a "kudos" button and he can't.

[dEHmom]

i asked michael to make one, but he said he's not smart enough.

juuuust kidding!

i did ask though after i saw ppl say that - like a "kudos" button and he can't.

Well.........a teenager created a like/unlike button on a social networking site....._____________________________________________

jk.

I think it would be great, but I guess quoting and then laughing or smiley faces works too

[Michael]

So you want a "Like" button huh? You girls must spend the rest of your time on Facebook. You can "Subscribe" to a thread that way you will be emailed everytime someone replies or posts on that thread. Otherwise, I think I can put a star system on the thread and you can rate it. What do you think?

[dEHmom]

So you want a "Like" button huh? You girls must spend the rest of your time on Facebook. You can "Subscribe" to a thread that way you will be emailed everytime someone replies or posts on that thread. Otherwise, I think I can put a star system on the thread and you can rate it. What do you think?

I think we are having fun complaining and ran out of stuff to complain about, so we decided to pick on you Michael.

The star system could work, but it's not a like button. It's just not the same

[nannyde]

So you want a "Like" button huh? You girls must spend the rest of your time on Facebook. You can "Subscribe" to a thread that way you will be emailed everytime someone replies or posts on that thread. Otherwise, I think I can put a star system on the thread and you can rate it. What do you think?

Just a "Nan likey this" button will be fine for me. ::

[QualiTcare]

okay, we are going off topic! i don't want anyone to get upset!

[dEHmom]

okay, we are going off topic! i don't want anyone to get upset!

ugh.....how old are you?

[QualiTcare]

ugh.....how old are you?

3...and a half.

[prioritizepre-k]

i just find it hilarious that you direct that toward the middle class. i personally find it disgusting that every female in tennessee who gets knocked up and doesn't work gets free healthcare for the rest of their lives practically along with food stamps, housing, PRE-K, etc. etc. and countless WORKING people can't go to the hospital when they're really, really sick because they can't afford insurance. they don't need to work, why would they? they're better off NOT working. they're not REALLY poor "due to various circumstances." most of them are shacked up with a boyfriend who works and they just don't report it to the govt. so they can keep getting all the bonuses like free food, free rent, free healthcare.

i don't think expanding pre-k so that children whose parents make "too much" (and YES three dollars over the limit is LITERALLY considered TOO MUCH)would be considered "creating entitlement programs for the middle class."

anyhow, what's the issue? are you afraid your preschool would go under if preschool were offered to all children? school is offered to all children and people still choose to send their children to private schools.

I direct my comments about the middle class because I was responding to what you said about the middle class getting screwed.

Yes there are many that take advantage of the system. So because people know how to play the system, we should institute a 50 billion dollar universal pre-k programs. That's no solution.

How about taking the economic parameters and expanding them so we can reach more people.

You ask what is the issue? The issue is we can not afford to run this type of program. Our country is in a economic crisis. Our public schools are cutting programs now because they can't afford them. How do you propose we pay for this extremely expensive, unproven program?