Really????

[daycare]

I was not given an explanation as to why, it was just docked.

So I have no clue why.

I clean the bathroom every morning with bleach before the kids arrive.

I do sanitize the sinks after we come in from outside, because normally there is mud drips every where. I clean the light switch, the door knob, the faucet handles and the sink, plus the toilet handle. every day at nap time.

then I don't do it again until the following day.

so I don't know what I am doing wrong, if that is the wrong way, but I can tell you this. I am asthmatic. I run 8-10 miles a day and my lungs never give me an issue. I don't ever need my inhaler when I run. Oh and don't get me started on my hands and nails.

The only time I need my inhaler is when I clean the daycare.... Which is every day before kids arrive at nap time and again when they leave. Those chemicals reek havoc on my lungs.

looking at the results, they make my house sound like a dirty mess and that is the one thing that every single person says to me when they first walk in. WOW your house is super clean.

Oh well, I excelled at all of the other areas but one, so I guess I shouldn't really complain too much.

[Thriftylady]

DD has asthma and I have allergies. We both have issues with cleaners. Can you make a weak bleach water to use so it won't bother you so much or does it have to be a commercial cleaner?

[daycare]

DD has asthma and I have allergies. We both have issues with cleaners. Can you make a weak bleach water to use so it won't bother you so much or does it have to be a commercial cleaner?

I can use other cleaners to their manufactures instructions, which I do.

I just think this is NUTS..

Like someone else said. Do elementary schools have to do this??

[daycare]

Sorry, I wanted to ask.

If elementary schools don't have to do it, then why do we? Why do we have to go kujo on the germs in our house?

[Unregistered]

I can use other cleaners to their manufactures instructions, which I do.

I just think this is NUTS..

Like someone else said. Do elementary schools have to do this??

This is insane. This is our home, jeez!
I AM SO HAPPY I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS!
I'm good working off referrels, I don't need/want the rating.

[Laurel]

Sorry, I wanted to ask.

If elementary schools don't have to do it, then why do we? Why do we have to go kujo on the germs in our house?

No telling. That is just nuts. We did not have the stars program and didn't have to do that.

What might work (it did for me with wiping diaper changing pad) is telling the inspector that there are allergies in the house and you can't be spraying so much as it makes you sick. Tell them you are afraid inhaling that is harmful for the children as well. Sometimes they will back off if it is presented as a health issue. My husband has allergies and asthma (and he wasn't home most of the time) but I told her that I can't be spraying in the house so use those Lysol type wipes for the pad. She said that was okay.

Another thing is that you have a right to know WHY she made that decision. We were always told to politely ask that she put the reason in writing on our inspection report. Also, as long as you are polite, you could ask her to show you the text in your ordinance that confirms what she is asking you to do. One time I asked her to show me in the ordinance and she couldn't so she didn't write it down. She made a big deal about it being 'recommended' though. Recommended Shrekomended, I wasn't going to do it.

[Silly Songs]

We do t use bleach in our center. Only one of the centers I ever worked in used bleach. There are other cleaners we use, but they are supplied by janitorial supply and I don't know the name. Really, all that bleach is not good for the children or the adults.

[daycare]

No telling. That is just nuts. We did not have the stars program and didn't have to do that.

What might work (it did for me with wiping diaper changing pad) is telling the inspector that there are allergies in the house and you can't be spraying so much as it makes you sick. Tell them you are afraid inhaling that is harmful for the children as well. Sometimes they will back off if it is presented as a health issue. My husband has allergies and asthma (and he wasn't home most of the time) but I told her that I can't be spraying in the house so use those Lysol type wipes for the pad. She said that was okay.

Another thing is that you have a right to know WHY she made that decision. We were always told to politely ask that she put the reason in writing on our inspection report. Also, as long as you are polite, you could ask her to show you the text in your ordinance that confirms what she is asking you to do. One time I asked her to show me in the ordinance and she couldn't so she didn't write it down. She made a big deal about it being 'recommended' though. Recommended Shrekomended, I wasn't going to do it.

funny you should say that, because I told them that we have 4 kids with astma and myself. which I even showed them the documented proof. they still didn't care

[Annalee]

This is insane. This is our home, jeez!
I AM SO HAPPY I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS!
I'm good working off referrels, I don't need/want the rating.

I am good at staying full with children as well, but the state STILL mandates the assessment. I don't get a choice. If you are licensed, it is only a matter of time before QRIS comes to your state in some form.

[AmyKidsCo]

And THIS is one reason why I decline to participate in WI's QRS system, YoungStar. Currently it's voluntary, unless you want to accept families who receive child care assistance.

We also have the choice of just sending in our paperwork and not go through a formal rating, but then you can't earn higher than 3 stars.

What frustrates me is that the majority of the things they rate on have little or no bearing on the actual quality of care. I could have a perfectly sanitary sink but be a real b*tch with the children.

[daycare]

And THIS is one reason why I decline to participate in WI's QRS system, YoungStar. Currently it's voluntary, unless you want to accept families who receive child care assistance.

We also have the choice of just sending in our paperwork and not go through a formal rating, but then you can't earn higher than 3 stars.

What frustrates me is that the majority of the things they rate on have little or no bearing on the actual quality of care. I could have a perfectly sanitary sink but be a real b*tch with the children.

See here we also have a class evaluation conducted which rates the quality of interactions that you have with the kids.

I just hate how contradicting all of my reports were.

We also have to have health screens or physical exams done yearly too

[daycarediva]

I have the kids go to the restroom after meals, wash their hands and THEN brush their teeth. Same thing I do with my own kids. BUT, I would have to sanitize the sink after the used it to wash hands after going potty, wait 2 mins PER CHILD, and THEN have them brush their teeth.

The alternative would be to have them all use the potty/wash hands and then re-line up to brush their teeth AFTER I have sanitized the sink. That would take FOREVER.

[Annalee]

And THIS is one reason why I decline to participate in WI's QRS system, YoungStar. Currently it's voluntary, unless you want to accept families who receive child care assistance.

We also have the choice of just sending in our paperwork and not go through a formal rating, but then you can't earn higher than 3 stars.

What frustrates me is that the majority of the things they rate on have little or no bearing on the actual quality of care. I could have a perfectly sanitary sink but be a real b*tch with the children.

Providers here were told in the beginning it would be voluntary, but look where we are now..it is in the law....you either complete it or loose your license.....when I hear other state's providers talk about choosing to participate or not, I always thing "I wish it was that simple".....it is just a matter of time before ALL states implement and do not give providers a choice.

[Hunni Bee]

OMG I don't honestly understand what was marked down, it doesn't make any sense at all.

I wash my hands with the kids to model how to wash hands and thn when we are done I wash my hands. I got docked points for doing that.

I guess I'm taking hits for hand washing. No way am I cleaning my sink that many times. The paint on my walls is already coming off from too much washing with chemicals.

Plus it's much more unhealthy for me to Inhale those fumes than to not wash it after each translation use.

But I do sanatize it after we come in from out doors. The kids are very messy.

I can't with ECERS. We don't have to do it at my current center because we're licensed and NAEYC accredited, but at my old job we did it.

I got marked down for removing the trash can lid for two seconds so a special needs child could throw his trash away, instead of doing it for him or letting him contaminate his whole arm because he couldn't manage the swing lid. I washed my hands immediately after.

I think it's wildly open to interpretation.

[Laurel]

funny you should say that, because I told them that we have 4 kids with astma and myself. which I even showed them the documented proof. they still didn't care

That's when I'd speak to this person's supervisor. Sometimes a provider here would speak to a supervisor and quite often this supervisor would side with the provider. No one should be able to ask you to compromise your health or the health of the children. I'd approach it like "I need to double check this as it doesn't make sense to me. I can't spray this much cleaner around asthmatics. It isn't safe. What alternative would you suggest so I could stay within the guidelines?" Put the problem on THEM.

We also had a group of providers form a childcare provider association. We had monthly meetings, offered a training, and actually had a little clout as a professional group. It was started years ago by a provider for support and we successfully fought some unfair regulations over the years. If you don't have one, consider starting it yourself.