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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #16
    Originally posted by midaycare
    Meh. I will agree to disagree. I give dcf's breaks all the time. I am so much more lenient than other providers, and I don't charge late fees.

    All of my dcf's know I do this, and none of them mind.
    Which is why I said "Personally, I think....."

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    • midaycare
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 5658

      #17
      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      Which is why I said "Personally, I think....."
      Posts started getting into morals and ethics, which made me think, "Wait a minute! I don't have either a moral or ethical issue here! I do more for my dcf's than most!"

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      • NotARegularMom
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 2

        #18
        There was no interview they just gave me papers to fill out. She filled my childs spot with a child who is usually in school. A friend of mine who referred me to this place because her child goes there. She owes daycare money as she is behind with her payments. I've been present for conversations about her keeping her child home when she has an other sitter available to save money on daycare. So why is she catching all of these breaks? Because they make it up by charging two families for the same spot? It just seems very unfair to me.

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        • MunchkinWrangler
          New Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 777

          #19
          What does your contract say? Just because your provider makes other arrangements for a family who needed care doesn't let you out of your contract agreement. So she can only make the money you think she should make and it's not fair for her to profit of of her business? It's honestly none of your business of she made other arrangements. Maybe your communications should have been more clear.

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          • Thriftylady
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 5884

            #20
            Originally posted by NotARegularMom
            There was no interview they just gave me papers to fill out. She filled my childs spot with a child who is usually in school. A friend of mine who referred me to this place because her child goes there. She owes daycare money as she is behind with her payments. I've been present for conversations about her keeping her child home when she has an other sitter available to save money on daycare. So why is she catching all of these breaks? Because they make it up by charging two families for the same spot? It just seems very unfair to me.
            Okay just for future reference I would never choose a daycare provider without AT LEAST one interview. Nor as a daycare provider would I accept a family that way. How else are you to understand policies and make sure you can work together? If you are feeling mistreated by your provider do two things. A. Talk to her about it. B. If it still doesn't meet your needs find another provider. As far as being able to keep her kids home, that is a huge reason why many providers do daycare is to be with their own children.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #21
              Originally posted by NotARegularMom
              There was no interview they just gave me papers to fill out. She filled my childs spot with a child who is usually in school. A friend of mine who referred me to this place because her child goes there. She owes daycare money as she is behind with her payments. I've been present for conversations about her keeping her child home when she has an other sitter available to save money on daycare. So why is she catching all of these breaks? Because they make it up by charging two families for the same spot? It just seems very unfair to me.
              Have you had a private conversation with the provider?

              I'd be interested in what she said and how she explained or justified it.

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              • mommyneedsadayoff
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 1754

                #22
                I think it depends on YOUR contract. If it says you pay during vacation, then you should pay. What she does while you are gone is really up to her and as long as your spot is held and available to you if your plans change (with notice of course), then I don't see it as a problem. If she didn't specifically tell you the situation, then you never know whose spot the kid was taking or if she was just helping a friend, how much or if she was paid, ect.

                As for differences between you paying and your friend not paying when absent, it's possible they signed a different contract with different terms or were grandfathered in when she changed her contract. It's sort of like when companies ask you not to discuss your pay with other employees. My families had different contracts too in some cases, but it wasn't personal. Just the way it worked out as I updated policies.

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NotARegularMom
                  There was no interview they just gave me papers to fill out. She filled my childs spot with a child who is usually in school. A friend of mine who referred me to this place because her child goes there. She owes daycare money as she is behind with her payments. I've been present for conversations about her keeping her child home when she has an other sitter available to save money on daycare. So why is she catching all of these breaks? Because they make it up by charging two families for the same spot? It just seems very unfair to me.
                  Your friend may be a subsidy client. If so, your provider is required to provide her a ridiculous number of loopholes in order to keep her own contract with the subsidy provider.

                  Otherwise, they may have a personal relationship you are not privy to. :confused:

                  Also, life is unfair. All. Of. It. Maybe you should start looking for a provider that better meets your needs.
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • midaycare
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 5658

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NotARegularMom
                    There was no interview they just gave me papers to fill out. She filled my childs spot with a child who is usually in school. A friend of mine who referred me to this place because her child goes there. She owes daycare money as she is behind with her payments. I've been present for conversations about her keeping her child home when she has an other sitter available to save money on daycare. So why is she catching all of these breaks? Because they make it up by charging two families for the same spot? It just seems very unfair to me.
                    I have parents who pay much less than others. Not because I like them more, I just had different rates when these families signed up.

                    I gave one dcf a break of $100 a month because they are an awesome family and they really need it.

                    Every family I care for has different situations, and I try to be cognizant of that. Some need an occasional early drop off or late pickup, some need flexibility with days.

                    Whatever I do though, it's only between the client and I.

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                    • KidGrind
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1099

                      #25
                      I told parents upfront, if your child is on vacation, out sick, etc. I will take in an hourly kid if there is room.

                      It does not alter any fees due.

                      That would've be extra work and less money for me. :dislike: It’s not unethical on my end because there was zero dishonesty and other factors.

                      Child care professionals should really take the time to let their clients know their policies. Parents should equally take the time to learn the policies of where they’re dropping off their most precious children.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #26
                        Originally posted by midaycare
                        I do this all the time. When a dck is out sick for the day, and another parent needs the spot who doesn't normally attend that day, the sick child parents' have to pay and the parent who attends that day.

                        My income varies so little. If I can make an extra $20- $30, it's nice
                        Me too.

                        How did you find out about the new kid? How do you know the new kid took your spot?
                        I wouldn't have told you about a new kid personally.

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                        • Unregistered

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NotARegularMom
                          There was no interview they just gave me papers to fill out. She filled my childs spot with a child who is usually in school. A friend of mine who referred me to this place because her child goes there. She owes daycare money as she is behind with her payments. I've been present for conversations about her keeping her child home when she has an other sitter available to save money on daycare. So why is she catching all of these breaks? Because they make it up by charging two families for the same spot? It just seems very unfair to me.
                          How old is your child? I can take 4 school age after I fill my toddler/infants. I don't have any school age so I would be able to watch a school ager without replacing.

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                          • Fiddlesticks
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 162

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            How old is your child? I can take 4 school age after I fill my toddler/infants. I don't have any school age so I would be able to watch a school ager without replacing.
                            This

                            I do not enroll school agers, but I have on occasion cared for a school age sibling if school is out and I am open. This would not be replacing anyone's spot, as my license capacity includes two spots for school age children which I never use.

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                            • midaycare
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 5658

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              How old is your child? I can take 4 school age after I fill my toddler/infants. I don't have any school age so I would be able to watch a school ager without replacing.
                              Good point

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                              • sahm1225
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 2060

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NotARegularMom
                                I know that when your child is in daycare, you're expected to pay for the say's that child is scheduled for whether they attend or not. However, I've recently run into something that seems unfair to me.

                                My child is in a home daycare. Monday to Friday schedule, but we kept him home for the holidays (2 weeks) Our provider asked a few weeks in advanced what our plans were for that time, and said he was not required to be there. Because it was arranged in advanced, my childs spot was filled by an other child for those two weeks, so that childs parents were billed for that slot, for those days. We are ALSO being billed for that same slot because it is our childs slot. But if they filled it with an other child for all of those days, should they still be billing us for that? It seems wrong to me that they can charge both families and get paid double for one spot.
                                How do you know the other family was billed? When I have open spots, I sometimes watch my nephew. I don't get paid for him although he takes up a spot.

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