No Parents Allowed in Classroom

[daycare]

In Ca. it is required that parents are allowed to have access to any space child care is conducted whenever their child is in care. This includes the classroom, and if in a family child care home, any spaces in the home that the children have access to while in attendance.

of course check with your licensing, because I was only told that they had to have access to their children. I do not have to allow them past my foyer.

I don't let parents use my bathroom, or their siblings.

when you let parents in the house you are also taking on the risk of increasing liability. what happens if they trip over a toy and fall and get hurt.

Parents need to stay at the foyer where I know it is 100% safe for them to be.

[Crystal]

of course check with your licensing, because I was only told that they had to have access to their children. I do not have to allow them past my foyer.

I don't let parents use my bathroom, or their siblings.

when you let parents in the house you are also taking on the risk of increasing liability. what happens if they trip over a toy and fall and get hurt.

Parents need to stay at the foyer where I know it is 100% safe for them to be.

If a parent or authorized rep of the child requests to inspect your home, in spaces where children are cared for, you cannot legally deny them the right to do so. Here are the Title 22 regulations for California Family Child Care Homes related to this topic:


Regulations FAMILY CHILD CARE HOMES 102419 (Cont.)
102419 ADMISSION PROCEDURES AND PARENTAL AND AUTHORIZED 102419
REPRESENTATIVE’S RIGHTS (Continued)
(1) The licensee shall request the child's parent or authorized representative to sign and date the
bottom portion of the notice form LIC 995A (8/06), which acknowledges that the parent or
authorized representative has received and read the LIC 995A. The bottom portion of this form
must be kept in the child’s file as proof that the parent or authorized representative has been
notified of his or her rights and received a copy of the Caregiver background Check Process, LIC
995E (6/05), and the Family Child Care Consumer Awareness Information, LIC 9212 (10/05).
(2) Whenever a parent or authorized representative makes a request pursuant to Section 102419(a)(8),
the licensee shall note, date, and initial the request in the child’s file. The licensee shall request
that the parent or authorized representative also initial the notation documenting the request.
(3) Reserved
(A) Upon a finding of noncompliance with a plan of correction for violation of Sections
102419(a)(8), (b), (c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2), the Department shall impose a civil penalty of
fifty dollars ($50) per day until the deficiency is corrected.
(B) Regardless of whether the licensee complies with an initial plan of correction in the time
allotted, if the licensee subsequently violates any provision of Sections 102419(a)(8), (b),
(c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2) within 12 months of the initial citation, the Department shall
assess a civil penalty of $150 plus an assessment of $50 per day until the deficiency is
corrected.
(C) Regardless of whether the licensee complies with the deficiency in Section
102419(b)(3)(B), if the licensee subsequently violates any provision of Sections
102419(a)(8), (b), (c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2) within 12 months of the citation and
assessment in Section 102419(b)(3)(B), the Department shall assess a civil penalty of
$150 plus an assessment of $150 per day until the deficiency is corrected.
(e) Upon presenting identification, the parent or authorized representative of a child in care has the right to
enter and inspect the family child care home without advance notice during the family child care home's
normal operating hours.
(1) When inspecting the family child care home, the parent or authorized representatives shall be
respectful of the children's routines and programmed activities.
(f) No family child care home shall discriminate or retaliate against any child or any child's parent or
authorized representative because the parent or authorized representative has exercised his or her right to
inspect the family child care home or has lodged a complaint with the Department against the family
child care home

[Crystal]

Unregistered OP, which state are you in and is it a center or family child care home?

[daycare]

If a parent or authorized rep of the child requests to inspect your home, in spaces where children are cared for, you cannot legally deny them the right to do so. Here are the Title 22 regulations for California Family Child Care Homes related to this topic:


Regulations FAMILY CHILD CARE HOMES 102419 (Cont.)
102419 ADMISSION PROCEDURES AND PARENTAL AND AUTHORIZED 102419
REPRESENTATIVE’S RIGHTS (Continued)
(1) The licensee shall request the child's parent or authorized representative to sign and date the
bottom portion of the notice form LIC 995A (8/06), which acknowledges that the parent or
authorized representative has received and read the LIC 995A. The bottom portion of this form
must be kept in the child’s file as proof that the parent or authorized representative has been
notified of his or her rights and received a copy of the Caregiver background Check Process, LIC
995E (6/05), and the Family Child Care Consumer Awareness Information, LIC 9212 (10/05).
(2) Whenever a parent or authorized representative makes a request pursuant to Section 102419(a)(8),
the licensee shall note, date, and initial the request in the child’s file. The licensee shall request
that the parent or authorized representative also initial the notation documenting the request.
(3) Reserved
(A) Upon a finding of noncompliance with a plan of correction for violation of Sections
102419(a)(8), (b), (c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2), the Department shall impose a civil penalty of
fifty dollars ($50) per day until the deficiency is corrected.
(B) Regardless of whether the licensee complies with an initial plan of correction in the time
allotted, if the licensee subsequently violates any provision of Sections 102419(a)(8), (b),
(c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2) within 12 months of the initial citation, the Department shall
assess a civil penalty of $150 plus an assessment of $50 per day until the deficiency is
corrected.
(C) Regardless of whether the licensee complies with the deficiency in Section
102419(b)(3)(B), if the licensee subsequently violates any provision of Sections
102419(a)(8), (b), (c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2) within 12 months of the citation and
assessment in Section 102419(b)(3)(B), the Department shall assess a civil penalty of
$150 plus an assessment of $150 per day until the deficiency is corrected.
(e) Upon presenting identification, the parent or authorized representative of a child in care has the right to
enter and inspect the family child care home without advance notice during the family child care home's
normal operating hours.
(1) When inspecting the family child care home, the parent or authorized representatives shall be
respectful of the children's routines and programmed activities.
(f) No family child care home shall discriminate or retaliate against any child or any child's parent or
authorized representative because the parent or authorized representative has exercised his or her right to
inspect the family child care home or has lodged a complaint with the Department against the family
child care home

yes they can inspect when they come to visit my home. BUt if there child is in the front room area where we conduct all drop off and pick up, then why would a parent need to go into my back yard or bathroom.

If a parent demanded to inspect my home I would want a reason. Even though they have the right to do so, I would want to know why they felt they needed to.

I guess for me this is very different for perhaps most DCP, as my house, excluding my personal bedrooms is the entire daycare. YOu can see all of it from my foyer.

also this: 1) When inspecting the family child care home, the parent or authorized representatives shall be
respectful of the children's routines and programmed activities. This is another reason why parents stay at the foyer. I cant deny a parent acces to their child, but I can set rules that dictate that I do not want parents to pick up during nap time or after a certain time or etc. HOWEVER, we both know that if a parent did, I can not deny them access to their child if they are in my care.

Also, I wanted to add that it says a parent can inspect at any time during hours of operation and that is only true if they have a child in my care on that day. they can not come in on their child's unscheduled day and demand to inspect my home.

[sharlan]

If a parent or authorized rep of the child requests to inspect your home, in spaces where children are cared for, you cannot legally deny them the right to do so. Here are the Title 22 regulations for California Family Child Care Homes related to this topic:


Regulations FAMILY CHILD CARE HOMES 102419 (Cont.)
102419 ADMISSION PROCEDURES AND PARENTAL AND AUTHORIZED 102419
REPRESENTATIVE’S RIGHTS (Continued)
(1) The licensee shall request the child's parent or authorized representative to sign and date the
bottom portion of the notice form LIC 995A (8/06), which acknowledges that the parent or
authorized representative has received and read the LIC 995A. The bottom portion of this form
must be kept in the child’s file as proof that the parent or authorized representative has been
notified of his or her rights and received a copy of the Caregiver background Check Process, LIC
995E (6/05), and the Family Child Care Consumer Awareness Information, LIC 9212 (10/05).
(2) Whenever a parent or authorized representative makes a request pursuant to Section 102419(a)(8),
the licensee shall note, date, and initial the request in the child’s file. The licensee shall request
that the parent or authorized representative also initial the notation documenting the request.
(3) Reserved
(A) Upon a finding of noncompliance with a plan of correction for violation of Sections
102419(a)(8), (b), (c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2), the Department shall impose a civil penalty of
fifty dollars ($50) per day until the deficiency is corrected.
(B) Regardless of whether the licensee complies with an initial plan of correction in the time
allotted, if the licensee subsequently violates any provision of Sections 102419(a)(8), (b),
(c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2) within 12 months of the initial citation, the Department shall
assess a civil penalty of $150 plus an assessment of $50 per day until the deficiency is
corrected.
(C) Regardless of whether the licensee complies with the deficiency in Section
102419(b)(3)(B), if the licensee subsequently violates any provision of Sections
102419(a)(8), (b), (c), (d), (d)(1), or (d)(2) within 12 months of the citation and
assessment in Section 102419(b)(3)(B), the Department shall assess a civil penalty of
$150 plus an assessment of $150 per day until the deficiency is corrected.
(e) Upon presenting identification, the parent or authorized representative of a child in care has the right to
enter and inspect the family child care home without advance notice during the family child care home's
normal operating hours.
(1) When inspecting the family child care home, the parent or authorized representatives shall be
respectful of the children's routines and programmed activities.
(f) No family child care home shall discriminate or retaliate against any child or any child's parent or
authorized representative because the parent or authorized representative has exercised his or her right to
inspect the family child care home or has lodged a complaint with the Department against the family
child care home

Thank you for sharing that.

[Crystal]

yes they can inspect when they come to visit my home. BUt if there child is in the front room area where we conduct all drop off and pick up, then why would a parent need to go into my back yard or bathroom.

If a parent demanded to inspect my home I would want a reason. Even though they have the right to do so, I would want to know why they felt they needed to.

I guess for me this is very different for perhaps most DCP, as my house, excluding my personal bedrooms is the entire daycare. YOu can see all of it from my foyer.

also this: 1) When inspecting the family child care home, the parent or authorized representatives shall be
respectful of the children's routines and programmed activities. This is another reason why parents stay at the foyer. I cant deny a parent acces to their child, but I can set rules that dictate that I do not want parents to pick up during nap time or after a certain time or etc. HOWEVER, we both know that if a parent did, I can not deny them access to their child if they are in my care.

Also, I wanted to add that it says a parent can inspect at any time during hours of operation and that is only true if they have a child in my care on that day. they can not come in on their child's unscheduled day and demand to inspect my home.

The point is they CAN and LEGALLY have the right to enter the facility and inspect ANY space where child care is typically provided. I understand you not necessarily wanting them to, but it is their right. You stated that you do not have to let them past your foyer, and that is not accurate.
I think that questioning why a parent might want to see the spaces where their child spends much of their time might make the parents question what you feel you need to hide (FTR-I know you aren't trying to hide anything, but I can see a parent being skeptical) Reasons a parent might want to (and SHOULD, imo) see spaces that their child has access to is to ensure they are always in a safe environment and to get a sense of what their child is doing throughout each day.

Certainly parents need to be respectful and considerate, such as not requesting to inspect during nap time, etc.

I just wanted to make sure that providers have the accurate info that is actually written in the regs and is also the first thing listed on the Parental Rights form (995A) that we have them sign at enrollment

[Crystal]

Thank you for sharing that.

You're welcome

[MunchkinWrangler]

In my state I was told by licensing that a parent has no right to walk around my home for any reason, even daycare areas. Point is, you don't know their background but we are given resources to check if we want to. I have very respectful parents and they never cross the entryway even if invited in.

[daycare]

The point is they CAN and LEGALLY have the right to enter the facility and inspect ANY space where child care is typically provided. I understand you not necessarily wanting them to, but it is their right. You stated that you do not have to let them past your foyer, and that is not accurate.
I think that questioning why a parent might want to see the spaces where their child spends much of their time might make the parents question what you feel you need to hide (FTR-I know you aren't trying to hide anything, but I can see a parent being skeptical) Reasons a parent might want to (and SHOULD, imo) see spaces that their child has access to is to ensure they are always in a safe environment and to get a sense of what their child is doing throughout each day.

Certainly parents need to be respectful and considerate, such as not requesting to inspect during nap time, etc.

I just wanted to make sure that providers have the accurate info that is actually written in the regs and is also the first thing listed on the Parental Rights form (995A) that we have them sign at enrollment

I hear what you are saying but as I stated you can see every daycare space from my foyer so they would not need to come in and inspect. They can see it from right there.
Yes they have every right but if a parent walked in and said I want to inspect your backyard I am probably going to ask why and then let them.
In public schools thenkidsbline up at a number and the teacher meets the students outside and then take to the classroom. Parents are not welcome to come in the classroom. As a provider I understand this.

But yes, you are correct in saying that they have the right and we can't deny them of that

[Blackcat31]

In my state I was told by licensing that a parent has no right to walk around my home for any reason, even daycare areas. Point is, you don't know their background but we are given resources to check if we want to. I have very respectful parents and they never cross the entryway even if invited in.

Luckily for us, our state only requires that type of access to parents in centers.

Family child care in our state only requires you to allow a parent access to their child any time during the day (open door policy). Meaning they can stop in and pick up any time. You do not have to give them any access beyond the entryway.

[KidGrind]

I would just have a policy that parents are allowed to inspect. However, due to children’s routine, child must leave with parent after inspection is completed.

[Unregistered]

Thanks all for your responses.

This is a center in Minnesota. I'm less worried about the legality of it than the notion I (as a parent) have no idea what is happening in the classrooms (especially my nonverbal toddler).

I was a toddler and preschool teacher for years and never would have imagined banning parents from my room. Granted, I never had any lingering or problematic parents but I would never enforce a policy like this.

[Blackcat31]

Thanks all for your responses.

This is a center in Minnesota. I'm less worried about the legality of it than the notion I (as a parent) have no idea what is happening in the classrooms (especially my nonverbal toddler).

I was a toddler and preschool teacher for years and never would have imagined banning parents from my room. Granted, I never had any lingering or problematic parents but I would never enforce a policy like this.

I would definitely discuss this with the Director then to get the answers of find the comfort level you need as a parent.

However, it is illegal. I am in MN as well and the state statutes clearly state that parents of enrolled children can have access to the classroom ANY time they wish. Even on days their child is not present. I can share the statute number if you need/want it.

[Unregistered]

I would appreciate that! I found the licensing requirement on parents entering the center but not classrooms. Thanks!

[Blackcat31]

I would appreciate that! I found the licensing requirement on parents entering the center but not classrooms. Thanks!

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules/?id=9503

9503.0095 PARENT VISITATION.
Parents of enrolled children may visit the center any time during the hours of operation.