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  • childcaremom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • May 2013
    • 2955

    #16
    Originally posted by KidGrind
    Without all the backstory, it’s really simple.


    You did NOT sign the consent. As a director, she should simply respect your request. The center gives out the forms for a reason. Parents have rights. The backstory doesn’t matter. You don’t have to explain yourself.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #17
      Originally posted by KidGrind
      Without all the backstory, it’s really simple.


      You did NOT sign the consent. As a director, she should simply respect your request. The center gives out the forms for a reason. Parents have rights. The backstory doesn’t matter. You don’t have to explain yourself.
      The children are minors. As an adult, if she does not have your signed/written permission to photograph your children, then she could face charges for violating that.

      Also, like KidGrind said you do not owe anyone an explanation. They are your children and it is your right to not have them photographed. Hence the reason they ask you to sign in the first place.

      I also agree that your children should not be dismissed from attending ANY days but if you do choose to keep them out, I would expect a FULL refund for sure.

      I am sure the director can have another staff member make sure your kiddos are outside the photographed area for a few minutes if she insists on taking pictures of the others OR she can make the exception to allow a later drop off.

      Overall, it sounds like the Director is simply being difficult for the sake of being difficult. There seems to be several other compromises available.

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      • pandamom
        New Daycare.com Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 193

        #18
        Because you said a holiday program, I assume it's not he CDC? I work at the CDC and we aren't allowed to celebrate any holidays.

        Your child/ren should not be excluded because of photographs. I have had a few children in the past that we did not have permission to photograph and also the MFLACS (child therapists and psychologists that visit classes regularly). It's easy peasy to have them include in activities and not be in photographs by moving the camera so they are out of the frame waiting for them to move to a different activity

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        • MarinaVanessa
          Family Childcare Home
          • Jan 2010
          • 7211

          #19
          I'll be the odd man out here and say that although you as a parent have a right to not want photos of your child posted online it does make it difficult for larger groups of centers to make sure that your child doesn't come up in any photos during assemblies and photos where a large number of children are included.

          I don't think that the director was acting out in a negative manner, I think she's trying to figure out a way to do what you are asking during a situation where that is very difficult.

          The way I see it is like this ... during this 1 hour on both days the only way to completely ensure that your child won't be in any of the picture posted online is to not have your child participate. If someone snaps a photo of a large group to post online, your child may be in the background somewhere and they might miss it. For them this could be a liability issue because you have filled out the form that says you do not want your child's photo shared online.

          That gives you two options ... keep your child home or give an exception to circumstances such as large celebrations. Celebrations are a great photo op for the daycare and posting these photos online in social media and their website is great PR and advertising and the point is for people to see them. I do agree however with those that say that since she approached you with having to keep your kids home then you should be prorated for those two days either refunded or credited towards your next payment.

          Does she understand that you're not saying you don't want pictures not taken, you just don't want photos of your kids posted online? And the photos in the newsletter would have been right right? Just trying to figure out why she's making a fuss out of those things.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
            I'll be the odd man out here and say that although you as a parent have a right to not want photos of your child posted online it does make it difficult for larger groups of centers to make sure that your child doesn't come up in any photos during assemblies and photos where a large number of children are included.

            I don't think that the director was acting out in a negative manner, I think she's trying to figure out a way to do what you are asking during a situation where that is very difficult.

            The way I see it is like this ... during this 1 hour on both days the only way to completely ensure that your child won't be in any of the picture posted online is to not have your child participate. If someone snaps a photo of a large group to post online, your child may be in the background somewhere and they might miss it. For them this could be a liability issue because you have filled out the form that says you do not want your child's photo shared online.

            That gives you two options ... keep your child home or give an exception to circumstances such as large celebrations. Celebrations are a great photo op for the daycare and posting these photos online in social media and their website is great PR and advertising and the point is for people to see them. I do agree however with those that say that since she approached you with having to keep your kids home then you should be prorated for those two days either refunded or credited towards your next payment.

            Does she understand that you're not saying you don't want pictures not taken, you just don't want photos of your kids posted online? And the photos in the newsletter would have been right right? Just trying to figure out why she's making a fuss out of those things.
            A childs/family's safety clearly outweighs the center's desire to photograph a holiday celebration.

            If the center doesnt want to honor a parents request to be or not be photographed why bother having a permission slip at all?

            Why not just simply say "We regularly take pictures of the kids and post them on-line. No exceptions"

            You cant allow someone a choice and then refuse to accommodate that choice imho.

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            • Hunni Bee
              False Sense Of Authority
              • Feb 2011
              • 2397

              #21
              It's not that big a deal at all (for the school). The director is being a jerk.

              I work in a large center (300+) and we have kids who do not have consent to be photographed/posted to social media. Some have parents who work for homeland security etc and some just don't want their kid posted to Facebook, myself included.

              We have a running list of photo consent designations and prior to photographing an event that may make it onto social media...we consult the list and move those kids out of the camera. It's not a reason for them to be excluded and it doesn't make much extra work.

              I'd fight this. Even if they so refund you, its not fair that your kids will now have to miss our on every fun activity over something that the adults can easily handle.

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              • Unregistered

                #22
                Its not really hard for them to just take the pictures as they would normally and then just stick a black dot over your child's face in group shots if the picture is going to be published in anyway.

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                • jenboo
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 3180

                  #23
                  I've worked at a center in a class with 24+ kids. We had a few kids who we could not photograph. It really wasn't that big of a deal. If we took pictures of an activity, we just took it from an angle where you couldn't see the child's face. If we took a group picture, those children were on the ends and we cropped them out. It didn't take much extra time or planning at all.

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