Can my Landlord force me to stop watching kids?

[Unregistered]

She didn't inquire about taxes. From what I gather your landlord has already said no, so unless you can get them to change their mind you need to move or find another career.

I would suggest always read your contract first before signing, that way you won't be surprised down the road.

[Blackcat31]

She didn't inquire about taxes. From what I gather your landlord has already said no, so unless you can get them to change their mind you need to move or find another career.

I would suggest always read your contract first before signing, that way you won't be surprised down the road.

She didn't ask about taxes but she clearly doesn't think she needs to pay them.

I am unlicensed, though, and am paid in cash. I am not taxed whatsoever.

[laundrymom]

I am unlicensed, though, and am paid in cash. I am not taxed whatsoever.

Oh. You are taxed. You are just failing to be honest and pay. The IRS will get their money, one way or another.
Sooner or later.

[nannyde]

I am unlicensed, though, and am paid in cash. I am not taxed whatsoever.

You are a business. You must pay taxes. The parents can pay in cash but it will not stop them from claiming the money they pay you. All they have to do is put your name, address, phone number and the amount they paid you on their tax form with a note stating you REFUSED to give them receipts and your EIN number or social security.

You will be audited and the IRS will be able to look at all your bills, bank transactions, and credit card payments. They will easily be able to see your income because it's half your family income.

You don't get to say words like "Type B and babysitting" to fool your landlord or the IRS. They don't care if you call yourself a Queen or a Frog as long as you claim your income.

The good news is that, by claiming income you will be able to have ample deductions to write off your business and living expenses. That would most likely bring you a nice income tax return unless your dh makes huge money. If he does your business will most likely decrease the tax liability on his income.

The bad news is that once you actually start having to claim income you will have to raise rates. The parents may want both the cheap cash rate AND the receipt. They will readily agree to the lower cash rate until tax time. Once their tax preparer shares they can claim the cash payments... they will change their minds. You can end up having high turnover based on when they get their taxes done.

[nannyde]

She didn't inquire about taxes. From what I gather your landlord has already said no, so unless you can get them to change their mind you need to move or find another career.

I would suggest always read your contract first before signing, that way you won't be surprised down the road.

She did say being paid in cash makes her not a business which then makes her claim to her landlord that she isn't a business valid.

She's a business.

[Thriftylady]

Even paid in cash you have to pay taxes. Refusing to give parents your tax id number to claim what they pay you on their taxes is a nice fine for EACH family from the IRS. You are a business if you are accepting payments from parents to provide child care (even if you call it babysitting) in your home for money. I am legally unlicensed in Ohio, and I pay taxes on every penny. I am sorry but it is a sore spot for me when other people don't.

[Unregistered]

She did say being paid in cash makes her not a business which then makes her claim to her landlord that she isn't a business valid.

She's a business.

I agree, no doubt there. Cash, checks, rubles...

My contention is why people rent then sign contracts that clearly state these things. Then they want to try and fight it. With all the rentals out there, find one that allows it.

[Blackcat31]

My contention is why people rent then sign contracts that clearly state these things. Then they want to try and fight it. With all the rentals out there, find one that allows it.

Seems to be the case with every thing...


Rules apply to everyone.

Except them.

[SilverSabre25]

Provider_Manda, I disagree. As a fellow Ohio provider, also unlicensed, I still consider myself a Type B provider because licensing for type B providers is not required.

Anyway, OP, you're still a business whether you're operating legally or not. Landlord is probably concerned about damages, traffic/parking, liability, etc. And consider, in the future, claiming your income and paying taxes properly. It can be a big draw to clients, actually, to tell them that you claim your income because it makes THEIR childcare fees tax deductible. As a home daycare provider you're able to take a lot of deductions (including certain portions of your rent, utilities, the children's meals, etc) which this forum can more than easily help you with.

[SilverSabre25]

I agree, no doubt there. Cash, checks, rubles...

My contention is why people rent then sign contracts that clearly state these things. Then they want to try and fight it. With all the rentals out there, find one that allows it.

I do have to wonder though, if the landlord would forbid a home based business such as someone who works from home (i.e. those work from home call center or medical billing jobs), or makes cloth diapers, or things to sell on Etsy.... inquiring minds want to know!

[Thriftylady]

Provider_Manda, I disagree. As a fellow Ohio provider, also unlicensed, I still consider myself a Type B provider because licensing for type B providers is not required.

Anyway, OP, you're still a business whether you're operating legally or not. Landlord is probably concerned about damages, traffic/parking, liability, etc. And consider, in the future, claiming your income and paying taxes properly. It can be a big draw to clients, actually, to tell them that you claim your income because it makes THEIR childcare fees tax deductible. As a home daycare provider you're able to take a lot of deductions (including certain portions of your rent, utilities, the children's meals, etc) which this forum can more than easily help you with.

I agree I am Class B and not licensed. We don't have to be. I pay all my taxes and claim all my deductions.

[Ariana]

I do have to wonder though, if the landlord would forbid a home based business such as someone who works from home (i.e. those work from home call center or medical billing jobs), or makes cloth diapers, or things to sell on Etsy.... inquiring minds want to know!

I would say that those businesses could go under the radar without him/her ever knowing about it. A daycare, not so much!

[nannyde]

I do have to wonder though, if the landlord would forbid a home based business such as someone who works from home (i.e. those work from home call center or medical billing jobs), or makes cloth diapers, or things to sell on Etsy.... inquiring minds want to know!

No personal injuries are going to come from those jobs.

[Ariana]

No personal injuries are going to come from those jobs.

Great point! You also don't need special insurance for those types of jobs.

[MrsSteinel'sHouse]

Selling a product on ebay or etsy would be different because liability. Really you are running that business out of the post office