Issues/non issues of proposed new regs

[nannyde]

https://www.daycare.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59994

[BabyMonkeys]

https://www.daycare.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59994

Do they still sell them? I consider myself pretty good with Google, but I'm coming up empty.

Never mind...a little more Google and I found my own answer

[Blackcat31]

Do they still sell them? I consider myself pretty good with Google, but I'm coming up empty.

Never mind...a little more Google and I found my own answer

You can still find them at garage sales, Craigs List and E-bay.

I have one. It is by far THE best PNP I own.

I have a Graco, an Eddie Bauer and an Evenflo as well but none of them compare to the JMason.

[nannyde]

You can still find them at garage sales, Craigs List and E-bay.

I have one. It is by far THE best PNP I own.

I have a Graco, an Eddie Bauer and an Evenflo as well but none of them compare to the JMason.

I have 14 in my stock! I hope they survive four years of basement storage as I do time in Podunkia.

[Blackcat31]

Ok, going back to the nap mats...I know you all sound horrified, but I truly do get all my kids to sleep 2+ hours every day. I have 12 kids, and right now four of them are under 21 months. I've had several babies in the past that I had in a pack and play, then moved to a nap mat on their first birthday. I've never had to hold them down, but we do sit and pat their backs for the first week or so when they first start. Now, we lay down with our blankies, say goodnight, and that's that. They're normally so exhausted from playing that they go right down without a fuss. This is also where I'm really glad we have a strict schedule that is perfectly consistent every day. 11:30, lunch, 12:00 diaper changes/potty, 12:15 read books, 12:30 lights out. They all know what to expect, and they all know they must stay on their mats, which are always placed in the same spot.

This is my routine as well.
Its the consistency every day that makes the difference.

I transition my kiddos around 12-15 months. It really isn't hard at all.

The kids know my expectations easily with regular routines and daily consistency so any transition really (bottle to cup, high chair to booster chair, pnp to nap mat) is usually seamless and smooth.

[Blackcat31]

I have 14 in my stock! I hope they survive four years of basement storage as I do time in Podunkia.

The only issue Ive run into,is needing the manufacturers certificate of compliance.

[Second Home]

Now see, that I don't understand??:confused: You don't have to put anything on your playground but if you do, it's gotta be 12" deep? Where is the logic in that, maybe someone can explain it to me? Is that your whole play yard or just under swings? Maybe it makes a difference? Is it anything over 3'? I'm hoping I don't come off sounding snarky, I'm really curious.

I have grass/dirt under my swings , my whole yard really . If I decide to put in mulch under the swings / play area it would have to be up to date with the center standards that came into effect after I was licensed. A minimum of 12 inches under the equipment . As long as I don't change anything then I do not have to update the play area . Our swings , slides and play equip can not be taller than 7 feet .

Now I really think this will eventually be changed but for now this is the regs.

I just had my inspection last week . My rep and I were out on the deck and she commented on how nice and big the yard/play area is for the kids .

[nannyde]

The only issue Ive run into,is needing the manufacturers certificate of compliance.

That wasn't required in the early 2000's.

I would be fine with using cribs till one. When they are truly useful is age one to three. They are kinda a back breaker if you use the first generations in infants that can't stand up. They cheapened them down to a 22 inch model. I use those for newborns. As soon as they pull up, I switch to the original ones.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

I keep mine in PNPs till they get to the point of being able to crawl out, which has been 2-3 years IME. I can't imagine my one year old sleeping on a mat or cot at this point. Part of what my kids love at nap is getting their own quiet space and being able to unwind alone. They will chat with themselves or roll around a little and humm, ect. Having them all in one room on mats would really ruin their alone time. I am glad I don't have these regulations and I am glad I have made the choice to be done with childcare at the end of the year. I love my job and my kids, but the risk of something bad happening has scared me away from a job I have done for over 17 years. I don't want to be stressed about it anymore, so I will bow out gracefully and continue the support for providers as long as I can speak. Much love and respect to those who continue to do this job no matter how tough they make it on you. You have my support 100%!happyface

[NoMoreJuice!]

NoMoreJuice, you must have assistants working with you by the sounds of it? Do you think that makes a difference? I guess it still makes the same ratio so probably not.
Maybe we're just anticipating a problem where there wouldn't be any in reality. Some kids just have a really hard time knowing there are others nearby, KWIM? They want to get up and play. Or for instance, I have 2 3 yos that don't sleep every day so all they want to do is stand up and look at each other. I'm constantly ushering them back into their proper places.
I always just assumed if the child showed no signs of attempting to climb out then it's okay.

I have one full time assistant (I call her my co-provider, but technically she is my employee). We separate our groups of six each in the mornings, but we feed all twelve and put them down to nap all together. We are very firm about not messing around. Our state regs say the nap mats must be 24 inches apart, but we really separate by three or four feet at least, spread out all over the basement. It's just a habit you have to get them into, not talking or messing around. We say a quiet but very firm "SHHH" if we hear any chatting, and that's about the end of it. Sometimes a little one will wake up early and my assistant will cuddle on the couch with him/her, but it's super rare.

I think all you amazing providers aren't giving yourselves enough credit. If I can do it, I know you can. You all know the magic powers of consistency.

[Unregistered]

I use the pack n play to about 18 months then I start to notice them not sleeping good the end up being to long and cant strech in the pack n play

[LysesKids]

This is my routine as well.
Its the consistency every day that makes the difference.

I transition my kiddos around 12-15 months. It really isn't hard at all.

The kids know my expectations easily with regular routines and daily consistency so any transition really (bottle to cup, high chair to booster chair, pnp to nap mat) is usually seamless and smooth.

See I transition @ 12 months also... most my kids are heading towards one of the Montessori schools in the area & that's a given there too. (My home is based on a Nido). Never had an issue even when I had 5 or 6 littles (in other states), but here it's a very manageable 4.

[nannyde]

I use the pack n play to about 18 months then I start to notice them not sleeping good the end up being to long and cant strech in the pack n play

Pack n plays are not just way more shallow but shorter and less wide. The ones I use are 41 inches long iirc.

[Cat Herder]

Every thing you listed in the OP have been "minimum standards" here for quite a while.

Just wait. :hug:

[Annalee]

Every thing you listed in the OP have been "minimum standards" here for quite a while.

Just wait. :hug:

Yep, just wait! New rules are coming across the board to many states. I transition to mats at 12 months. Anything outside that is over 12 inches here has to have 6 inches of resilliant surfacing under it in case a child falls while climbing....yep, even the little tykes things.....so I don't have any!!!! I have crawl thru things. Nothing but a receiving blanket is allowed in pnp or cribs now. The rules here are strict and many violations come with a hefty fine.