What’s The Deal With All Of These Kids Being Diagnosed With Asthma?

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  • Crystal
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 4002

    #31
    Originally posted by Thriftylady
    But how do you KNOW it was fake? Are you able to listen to lungs and diagnose? If not, to assume the families are lying is dangerous. If the doctor wrote up the diagnosis, you have to assume that it is correct. If you question it you can call the authorities in your state and report your suspicions, but you have to care for the child based on the written treatment plan of the doctor.

    If you have never sat up all night listening to your child breath after they have been sent home from the doctor or hospital and are still having issues, you are very lucky. But it is something those of us who have done it won't forget.

    ETA: As far as the diagnosis my daughter was getting from her professional for years, it was a cold. I had suspicions but had no idea how serious it could be. If I had, she would have had a new doctor much sooner. I had never spent any real time around anyone with asthma and had no clue. I now try to tell parents about what happened to us so they know what to look for.
    When it has been diagnosed, I do treat it as such. I am not being "dangerous". I am trained in the use of nebulizers and inhalers and have used both in such situations.

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    • Thriftylady
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 5884

      #32
      Originally posted by CoachingForQualityImprovement
      When it has been diagnosed, I do treat it as such. I am not being "dangerous". I am trained in the use of nebulizers and inhalers and have used both in such situations.
      Glad to hear that. When those are used, the insurance will not pay for them without the proper criteria being met. We had to sign we would pay for the neutralizer from the doctor, because the insurance wouldn't pay for it until all criteria was met. It was and they paid but they require it to be a real diagnosis.

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      • KiddieCahoots
        FCC Educator
        • Mar 2014
        • 1349

        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        That is not true. My daughter has cold induced asthma and it is a real thing. The illness is a trigger for asthma just like an allergy is for some kids. It makes their airways constrict. WE have spent multiple nights in the ER from a minor cold. It is not a fake illness people have to allow their kids into school, however, I'm sure some can abuse this when they are really sick just like some people can take advantage of everything.
        I haven't read on to see if anyone has commented.....but has anybody talked about having your daughter's tonsils and adnoids removed?
        I had infectious asthma when younger. Had the surgical procedure done at 13yrs of age, this was after being hospitalized twice and put into a breathing tent. After the tonsilectomy, it went away completely, almost like magic.

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        • KiddieCahoots
          FCC Educator
          • Mar 2014
          • 1349

          #34
          Has anyone noticed that tonsillectomys are not performed as often? Coincidence with the amount of increase in asthma patients?
          I'm just one, but when I was younger and was sick with a common cold, it would always move into my lungs, and I would end up sounding like the exorcist when I would breath. It was awful!
          A tonsillectomy took away EVERY symptom.

          I believe a contribution of things make this what it is..... partly what I mentioned above, the over use of antibacterial products.



          And the change in environment
          Three types of tree pollen are bursting at the same time, causing a "triple whammy" for seasonal allergy sufferers.

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          • Thriftylady
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 5884

            #35
            Originally posted by KiddieCahoots
            I haven't read on to see if anyone has commented.....but has anybody talked about having your daughter's tonsils and adnoids removed?
            I had infectious asthma when younger. Had the surgical procedure done at 13yrs of age, this was after being hospitalized twice and put into a breathing tent. After the tonsilectomy, it went away completely, almost like magic.
            I have never heard of infectious asthma. Glad that helped you.

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            • KiddieCahoots
              FCC Educator
              • Mar 2014
              • 1349

              #36
              Originally posted by Thriftylady
              I have never heard of infectious asthma. Glad that helped you.
              Basically it was what started out as a cold, that would end up in the lungs. To the point of hospitalization with a breathing apparatus (an oxygen tent) and steroid medications.
              Thank you Thrifty, it cured me happyface

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              • Unregistered

                #37
                Originally posted by Thriftylady
                Maybe that is why my DD went so long. She does better with her singulair and allegra each once a day now. But there are times (this year is awful for allergies here it seems she and I are miserable), that nothing seems to help. We try to keep DD out of the cold air as much as possible but the colds going around school get her I think she catches every one that goes around there and it seems to take forever for her lungs to clear up when she does. I felt so bad when her new doctor here looked at me with a very serious face and said "how long has she been wheezing like that?" and her eyes about popped out of her head when I said "Since a few days after she was born mostly". I had no ideal nighttime coughing was a sign of asthma.
                Yep those are definitely symptoms. Others are having your colds last FOREVER, too humid or even too dry bothering it, and if they get bothered with exercise. But not all wheeze. My daughter didn't wheeze at all. She would get so bad she'd throw up because she couldn't breath. Her chest was so tight she couldn't wheeze. And for the exercise all she would do was lay down because she was tired. Didn't seem to not be able to breath, but not being able to breath was making her exhausted

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                • Ariana
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 8969

                  #38
                  Originally posted by daycare
                  Interesting... I actually don't consume dairy but this is interesting. I have heard other people say something similar.

                  can allergy test be conducted in children under 5
                  This is the kicker. Whey allergies do not show up on allergy tests at all. My daughter was allergic to dairy and I had no idea until she was 6 months and I first fed her yogurt. She broke out in an eczema type rash. So I gave up dairy (I was BFing her) and didn't feed her anymore dairy. So many issues cleared up like her cradle cap, goopy eyes and non stop sneezing (which I thought was normal baby stuff). I took her to the allergist at 1 year for an unrelated allergy (she reacted to her vaccines) and I asked them to test her for dairy. it came back negative so I started feeding her dairy again as so many people, including the allergist, told me that kids grow out of it. Within two weeks she started getting eczema on her skin. So I decided to give it up again and sure enough it went away. The weird thing was that I knew she wasn't allergic to Casein (The protein they test for) because it is in her rice cheese plus her allergy test came back negative. She was also ok with dairy that was baked, like in a cake. So I started to do some research as I was very confused and this is when I discovered whey allergies and what they are. It all made sense to me. Whey allergies have been linked to asthma from what I have been reading. Then my husband decided to give it up and it was amazing the results he had!

                  My niece also has a whey allergy but my sister keeps feeding her dairy anyway and lo and behold she was diagnosed with asthma at 3 years old. She was rushed to hospital twice for it My sister just doesn't want to believe, like so many people, that dairy is the culprit. My sister herself has a dairy allergy but thinks it's lactose so takes the lactose pills and assumes she is good to go. She feeds her daughter the pills too but I can see both of them suffering. My niece with her major asthma and my sister with an autoimmune disease. My brother also has severe asthma but refuses to give up dairy. My nephew on my husbands side just got diagnosed with asthma as well but of course they won't give up their dairy either. As you can see whey allergies run in my family on both sides. For me dairy affects my skin. When we went on vacation I was eating dairy for 2 weeks and my skin broke out in acne and I was constantly blowing my nose. Dairy is a known mucous producer in the lungs so for me it just results in a little more congestion but for someone with asthma is results in a more severe congestion as their body already produces more mucous in the lung.

                  My advice to anyone suffering from asthma or who has a child suffering from asthma is to give up the dairy for a few weeks (at least 2) and see if there is any improvement. Dairy is in everything so it will be difficult but there are a lot of awesome alternatives out there now.

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                  • Thriftylady
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 5884

                    #39
                    Originally posted by KiddieCahoots
                    Has anyone noticed that tonsillectomys are not performed as often? Coincidence with the amount of increase in asthma patients?
                    I'm just one, but when I was younger and was sick with a common cold, it would always move into my lungs, and I would end up sounding like the exorcist when I would breath. It was awful!
                    A tonsillectomy took away EVERY symptom.

                    I believe a contribution of things make this what it is..... partly what I mentioned above, the over use of antibacterial products.



                    And the change in environment
                    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...misery-n354931
                    I hardly ever hear of them anymore. Hadn't thought of it but they don't do them so much. DD does the same thing, every time she gets a cold it goes to her lungs and asthma. And I am not sure if it is just her or because of her asthma but she seems to catch every darn cold that walks past her.

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