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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #31
    Originally posted by Ariana
    I don't see anything wrong with asking for money for anything! Some people will give it and others won't and what's the big deal? I think some people see money in terms of lack. You have to work hard, money doesn't grow on trees, you need to do things to deserve it like be sick. Some people like myself view money as abundant and flowing and I can give to you and also the sick. There is enough to go around! We have placed such a high value on money that we see people who ask for it as "less than". I don't think that is right. Money is just paper. You can give it if you want to or not...up to you.
    Also curious.....how much of this paper have you given away to other this year?

    You don't have to answer that, but I am genuinely curious if you actually give away the money you work hard for and if so, to who... do you have criteria as to who is worthy and who deserves it or do you just randomly hand it out here and there?

    Do you provide child care for free? If your clients are simply paying you with paper, why charge them at all? Why not just provide services for free?

    I understand where you are coming from with your statement about people placing such a high value on money and I am not trying to begrudge you the freedom of not being tied to monetary things or the stigma that society places on the amount of money people have/don't have but in an essence, you are doing that very thing by stating that its abundant and flowing when in reality it is not. If it is....I'd like to know how you are managing to pay for the items/services needed to live as well as operate a business day in and day out.

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    • midaycare
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 5658

      #32
      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      I agree that we place a high value on money but unfortunately it is the only form of tender accepted to pay for the things in life we all need/desire.

      In order to earn that money, we work hard. Physically, emotionally and mentally. Sometimes going without something in order to gain something else/attain our dreams.

      To simply state that money is just paper is belittling to the process in which we all work to earn it.

      In my eyes when people seek to ask others to give without giving first themselves it negates the hard work I (and others) have put forth to earn that money and what it can be used for.

      If someone else isn't willing to work hard and go without in order to earn bigger rewards/to complete their dreams, it's lazy and in my opinion rude.

      I would probably have a different opinion if the gofundme accounts started out with "I have earned $500 of the needed $800 in order to go/do X, so please help me reach my goal"..... etc.....
      Or if the person asking for handouts was required to match the funds given.

      But it doesn't and instead the message I hear is "You worked hard to earn that dollar so please feel bad for the situation I am in and give it to me."
      Well said.

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      • daycare
        Advanced Daycare.com *********
        • Feb 2011
        • 16259

        #33
        go fund me is just an online version of being a gypsy.

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        • KiddieCahoots
          FCC Educator
          • Mar 2014
          • 1349

          #34
          Ladies, if I didn't know your ages, I'd swear you had been around the block a few times (yrs wise).
          The way you are able to write down in depth and logical thoughts, blows me away.
          Love the points being made!

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          • Rockgirl
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2013
            • 2204

            #35
            I'm a member of a fb group for buying/selling items locally. Lately people have been posting lots of gofundme requests. Some, I don't have an issue with...family needs help with traveling to cancer treatments, etc. But it is getting way out of hand. A college student asked for money to help buy textbooks. A young lady wanted help buying a car because hers broke down. Sorry, no. And it's not just a matter of me not wanting to donate to them. I think it's downright tacky to ask.

            I wouldn't go into toys r us, and start asking people to buy toys and equipment for me to start up a daycare. How different is that, really?

            I think part of the problem is that 'wants' have turned into 'needs'. Most of the things we have, we don't actually NEED--but we've convinced ourselves we do. People used to walk if they didn't have a car, live without a cell phone, etc.

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            • MrsSteinel'sHouse
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 1509

              #36
              Originally posted by Thriftylady
              Tell your daughter to check out all the thrift and consignment stores in her area! Sometimes I find good furniture, have a sofa from goodwill in my home right now.

              I am hoping bil and sil decide they need a new couch.. they live down the street.

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              • LysesKids
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2014
                • 2836

                #37
                Originally posted by Rockgirl
                I'm a member of a fb group for buying/selling items locally. Lately people have been posting lots of gofundme requests. Some, I don't have an issue with...family needs help with traveling to cancer treatments, etc. But it is getting way out of hand. A college student asked for money to help buy textbooks. A young lady wanted help buying a car because hers broke down. Sorry, no. And it's not just a matter of me not wanting to donate to them. I think it's downright tacky to ask.

                I wouldn't go into toys r us, and start asking people to buy toys and equipment for me to start up a daycare. How different is that, really?

                I think part of the problem is that 'wants' have turned into 'needs'. Most of the things we have, we don't actually NEED--but we've convinced ourselves we do. People used to walk if they didn't have a car, live without a cell phone, etc.
                Oh believe me, I know this well... Both my older children started their own businesses with a lot of blood, sweat & tears, My SIL too. I've been self employed for 30 years (4 different businesses/careers). My dad showed me & my children the ethical way to start your own career so we all grew up knowing the downfalls, but we never begged for $$ to start up either - we all worked outside jobs & saved before we went out on our own. And just because you "build it", it doesn't mean they will be knocking on your door right away, so have 6 months savings put away just in case

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                • Heidi
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 7121

                  #38
                  So, I've been thinking about this.

                  If someone were to ask for a LOAN to start a business, I'd see it differently. Many, many people over the years have needed start up loans. It's the gift part that bothers me.

                  My ex asked his grandparents for a loan for school when he was just out of high school. They lent him the money. 10 years later, he'd never made a single payment. When I found out about it, I MADE him start paying them. I pretty much forced him to write an apology and send a check for $25, promising to send at least that every month.

                  They sent the check back, along with the promissory note they'd originally written up, marked "paid in full". All they wanted, really, was the effort. It wasn't really about the money for them, it was about the principle.

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                  • Rockgirl
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 2204

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Heidi
                    So, I've been thinking about this.

                    If someone were to ask for a LOAN to start a business, I'd see it differently. Many, many people over the years have needed start up loans. It's the gift part that bothers me.

                    My ex asked his grandparents for a loan for school when he was just out of high school. They lent him the money. 10 years later, he'd never made a single payment. When I found out about it, I MADE him start paying them. I pretty much forced him to write an apology and send a check for $25, promising to send at least that every month.

                    They sent the check back, along with the promissory note they'd originally written up, marked "paid in full". All they wanted, really, was the effort. It wasn't really about the money for them, it was about the principle.
                    I agree with this. And good for you for seeing that the effort was made!

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                    • Unregistered

                      #40
                      gofundme?

                      Ok im the who posted this and I have read your comments. I didn't mean for it to sound like give me your money", thats not what I meant at all.I know I didnt provide much details I dont even really think I will ever make one.I just in general wanted opinions on those kind sites thank you everyone for that to why or why not.I do have money for my own place, waiting for right place to come along)I just wanted to let u no where I am living .I definitely work hard around the clock (im 24/7)no days off I take the kids everywhere, im always full when im at the limit as soon as some one leaves someone is ready to drop there kid off (im cheaper than most)i did have a second job at a daycare center i just dont really like the way they are ran or the way they treat kids , so i im pretty sure i work hard like everyone else doing childcare And I would hope that who ever does use those site offer something in exchange for those that donated I think that would make it fair.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #41
                        gofundme?

                        And what I put looking to get my own place, I dont need or what money for that I was thinking of putting that on the site if I ever made one to get people in for when I get my place like a waiting list? Money donated maby to go towards there childcare fees like advanced payments.

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                        • midaycare
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 5658

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Ok im the who posted this and I have read your comments. I didn't mean for it to sound like give me your money", thats not what I meant at all.I know I didnt provide much details I dont even really think I will ever make one.I just in general wanted opinions on those kind sites thank you everyone for that to why or why not.I do have money for my own place, waiting for right place to come along)I just wanted to let u no where I am living .I definitely work hard around the clock (im 24/7)no days off I take the kids everywhere, im always full when im at the limit as soon as some one leaves someone is ready to drop there kid off (im cheaper than most)i did have a second job at a daycare center i just dont really like the way they are ran or the way they treat kids , so i im pretty sure i work hard like everyone else doing childcare And I would hope that who ever does use those site offer something in exchange for those that donated I think that would make it fair.
                          Did I misunderstand? Are you working for your mom? If you are working 24/7 in her home for her business, you are being taken advantage of. I can't fully understand the situation.

                          If you need to make extra money, I suggest waitressing. Depending on your location and the type of restaurant, there is a lot of money to be made working an extra 20-30 hours a week.

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                          • Heidi
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 7121

                            #43
                            Originally posted by midaycare
                            Did I misunderstand? Are you working for your mom? If you are working 24/7 in her home for her business, you are being taken advantage of. I can't fully understand the situation.

                            If you need to make extra money, I suggest waitressing. Depending on your location and the type of restaurant, there is a lot of money to be made working an extra 20-30 hours a week.
                            Yes, I would say so!

                            Also, are you allowed to have children 24/7? Are you licensed?

                            Sorry to make assumptions, but there happens to be a 24/7 mom-and-daughter team in our area. They are very clearly running an illegal operation, and actually ADVERTISE that they don't "do tax time claiming". They naturally advertise based on "low rates". Well, yeah, when there's no limit on how many children you take, you can do it much cheaper per child.

                            OP, it sounds like maybe 24/7 care is wiping you out, and you're looking for something more professional and independent?

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                            • Unregistered

                              #44
                              gofundme?

                              I dont work for my mom she has her kids she watchs and I have my kids I watch, I watch mine and hers when she works part time.. We are not license, but we are legal we do follow the law and only watch how many we are suppose to.I would like more kids, but have to wait when I get my own place the amout of kids to watch is very low here.where I live it is x amount of kids per house not per adult.since im cheaper than most thats why I watch kids longer hours.

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                              • Rockgirl
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 2204

                                #45
                                Just curious--honest question. If you stay full with a waiting list, why not go up a little on your rate, and start putting the extra aside for your own place?

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