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    #16
    Originally posted by Play Care
    I understand the "do it for all or for none" but honestly, that doesn't always work. And I resent outsiders (epspecially if it's not a regulation) telling us what we should and shouldn't do because of their own personal beliefs. I mean, I had a county employee tell me I charged too much for FT care. Should I have lowered my rates because she said so?

    If questioned "their contract is different as they started at x time. I grandfather my clients in the contract they signed when they started. there will always be some differences between payment, avalible care dates, etc."

    In my case new families always pay more than old clients, so I might point out that as well. Then I'd suggest that "I'll put you on the same contract but your rates would go up to x a week." I'm pretty sure I know what they'd chose.
    I totally understand where you are coming from. And what you are doing works for you and your program which is great.

    I didn't take what my fp rep was saying as telling us what to do. It was more what we can do to minimize being accused of discrimination. Also in my state, any time I make a change to my hours, fees, closures, policies/program which are all in my parent handbook, I must inform families and licensing 30 days prior to the change going into effect. To keep things simple, I just make everything the same for everyone. A former parent did try to use the "unfair" card for his child because I didn't like his child, but nope told him look at my policies and your contract it's the same as everyone else's. Thank goodness this family is gone.

    On a side note: I worked at a center and two teachers were accused of discriminating a child in their classroom due to race. After talks with the family (the family said things like we spoke to a family friend who is a lawyer about this, etc at the meeting) and an investigation the accusation was unfounded beacuse all the children in the classroom were given the same treatment based on our policies that was for all the children in the center. The parent was angry and lashing out because the child was hurting other children for no apparent reason (would just walk up to different children and pinch/bite/hit the children and walk away, etc) and was getting calls and conferences to talk about the situation, and for pick up if child continued to hurt others intentionally. The parent thought the child was an angel and the other children must be doing something to the child to cause him to retaliate, and the teachers must be out to get the child because the child was of a different race from the teachers. The family ended up terming, would have termed them if they didn't leave on their own.

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    • Play Care
      Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 6642

      #17
      Originally posted by midaycare
      I have the same issue re: prices. Almost everyone I have pays a different rate. When I opened I was low, and raised it as each slot filled. Now I am on the mid to high end.

      Okay, wait! How does a county worker tell you that you are too expensive in your own business?
      When I first started out I had a client go on county payment. There was some error and I had to call to ask. Somehow it came up that the county only paid x amount toward my fee, not the whole fee. That's when she said "well, you're charging a lot!"

      Keep in mind that in my county the employees work 9-4, have paid bennies, pensions, paid vacations and every federal and state holiday off with pay. In fact it had taken me almost a month to get someone on the phone because no one was ever there. But *I* charge too much
      I'm not bitter ::

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      • MommyMuffin
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 860

        #18
        This is so frustrating to me. I know some of you this is your career and you excell at it and are very professional. I am not making childcare into a career...I loved being a school nurse and will go back to it when all my kids are in school.

        I love young children and wanted to watch 2-3 infants/toddlers....to do so I must be licensed...ok fine...I get it. I know I am safe and qualified but I understand why I have to jump through the hoops.

        But if I want to charge my friend a lower rate than a different family I signed up for...I don't want to have to worry about discrimination. If I took a day off and decided to watch my friends kid...then that is my own business. I'm not sure if that would fly in court but gee whiz!!

        I appreciate all your answers. I am in no way saying this to any person on here so please no offense.

        I just get frustrated sometimes. They told me I have to buy a new crib for my own 1 yr old daughter because it was manufactured in 2010....even if it is in a room the dck cannot access... That is a different vent....

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        • littletots
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 372

          #19
          Mommymuffin Same pack in play guidelines for my license plus children under 3 in line of sight at.all.times. Ok. I can go to bathroom 5 mins alone. Lol

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          • Play Care
            Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 6642

            #20
            Originally posted by MommyMuffin
            This is so frustrating to me. I know some of you this is your career and you excell at it and are very professional. I am not making childcare into a career...I loved being a school nurse and will go back to it when all my kids are in school.

            I love young children and wanted to watch 2-3 infants/toddlers....to do so I must be licensed...ok fine...I get it. I know I am safe and qualified but I understand why I have to jump through the hoops.

            But if I want to charge my friend a lower rate than a different family I signed up for...I don't want to have to worry about discrimination. If I took a day off and decided to watch my friends kid...then that is my own business. I'm not sure if that would fly in court but gee whiz!!

            I appreciate all your answers. I am in no way saying this to any person on here so please no offense.

            I just get frustrated sometimes. They told me I have to buy a new crib for my own 1 yr old daughter because it was manufactured in 2010....even if it is in a room the dck cannot access... That is a different vent....
            Honestly, when I started out my licensing rules were lax about what I could do with my own kids. For instance my kids could nap in their own bedrooms, out of my sight. If the regs had been what they now are and I was looking to start out, I would chose something else.
            By the time things started to change, my own kids were no longer in my day care (school aged) and I had already been running a well regarded/established child care for several years.
            If I were a school nurse and presumably working school calendar schedule/hours/bennies, etc I would find the most awesome day care provider for my kids and keep my nursing job.
            Not to offend, just my two cents.

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            • MommyMuffin
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 860

              #21
              Originally posted by Play Care
              Honestly, when I started out my licensing rules were lax about what I could do with my own kids. For instance my kids could nap in their own bedrooms, out of my sight. If the regs had been what they now are and I was looking to start out, I would chose something else.
              By the time things started to change, my own kids were no longer in my day care (school aged) and I had already been running a well regarded/established child care for several years.
              If I were a school nurse and presumably working school calendar schedule/hours/bennies, etc I would find the most awesome day care provider for my kids and keep my nursing job.
              Not to offend, just my two cents.
              Not offended at all. I don't make enough to pay for 3 kids in daycare and I have had too many bad providers.

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              • Rachel
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 605

                #22
                1. They will talk, this will come back to bite you.
                2. If I was one of your other parents I would leave. Why should I pay for sick days and vacation and others not? Why should I pay you 2 extra holidays and have to pay backup care or take a day off work when you are watching another child?
                3. I agree with the others that this parent will continue to push. You will be opened more hours with less pay.
                4. Grandfathering is totally different. Paying different rates for the same care vs. getting more care. Also in grandfathering everyone stands to benefit. Just like the Smith family gets an old rate because they have been with you for 5 years, I also know my rate won't go up with time.

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