Ok, What Do I Do If Time Outs Are Not Working?!

**Little People** · 01-06-2011, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by sahm2three

I have the 2 year old dcb who I have talked about being in the terrible twos. Into EVERYTHING. Climbs EVERYTHING. Goes from one thing to the other that he isn't supposed to be into, and has plenty of toys to play with. He has other kids his age to play with. But he chooses to just get into trouble. Another thing he does is take his socks off. I have a rule that you must keep your socks on during the winter time. I have hardwood floor on much of my floors and it is cold right now. He whips them off, especially in time out. What do I do with him?! I really dislike 2 year olds. They are way to mischievious. Tell me what else I can do! I use Common Sense Parenting (get down to their level, tell them what they did and that it is not ok). I also use the counting method. What else can I do?! Time outs aren't making an impression on him any more. UGH! So exhausted!

You could velcro him to the wall

There was an article about 20 years ago that a mother of 4 children would try to clean her house and the kids would mess up the room she just got done and she said she could never get the entire house cleaned and be able to look back and see everything cleaned. So she glued both walls in her hall with velcro, then she made like a velcro jumpsuit for each kid. She made soft velcro toys. The she placed 2 kids on one wall and two kids on the other wall and gave them the velcro toys. They would throw toys back and forth. She said the kids LOVED it and cried when she took them off!!

Today she would be thrown in jail for this!! But I just had to throw this in!!

**marniewon** · 01-06-2011, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by Little People

You could velcro him to the wall

There was an article about 20 years ago that a mother of 4 children would try to clean her house and the kids would mess up the room she just got done and she said she could never get the entire house cleaned and be able to look back and see everything cleaned. So she glued both walls in her hall with velcro, then she made like a velcro jumpsuit for each kid. She made soft velcro toys. The she placed 2 kids on one wall and two kids on the other wall and gave them the velcro toys. They would throw toys back and forth. She said the kids LOVED it and cried when she took them off!!

Today she would be thrown in jail for this!! But I just had to throw this in!!

Brilliant! Love it!

But back to the issue. Can you put a pnp in the playroom and put him in it with a few toys that he can't use as weapons? That would keep him in one place so he wouldn't be getting into everything. As far as the socks, I have the same rule, for the same reason. However, if a kid wants to take his socks off, he will. Can he get his shoes off yet? If he can't, try leaving shoes on him. Other than that I have no advice for you.

**Crystal** · 01-06-2011, 08:36 AM

I'd suggest redirection, limited choices and positive reinforcement, but that has all been said before and it tends to fall on deaf ears around here.

If he's bringing you so much stress, perhaps you need to find a replacement for him.

On the sock thing.....if the cold floor doesn't bother him, then why are you insistent about it? Seems that you are causing yourself added issues by battling something that really doesn't need to be battled. Let him take them off, OR try reverse psychology. Take his socks off of him first and tell him he cannot wear them. He might decide he wants them on

**Crystal** · 01-06-2011, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by sahm2three

I really dislike 2 year olds. They are way to mischievious.

went back and re-read your post. Ya know, this right here says alot. Perhaps you should cater to infants or preschool and school age. Might save you a BIG headache.

**sahm2three** · 01-06-2011, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Crystal

I'd suggest redirection, limited choices and positive reinforcement, but that has all been said before and it tends to fall on deaf ears around here.

If he's bringing you so much stress, perhaps you need to find a replacement for him.

On the sock thing.....if the cold floor doesn't bother him, then why are you insistent about it? Seems that you are causing yourself added issues by battling something that really doesn't need to be battled. Let him take them off, OR try reverse psychology. Take his socks off of him first and tell him he cannot wear them. He might decide he wants them on

Redirection doesn't work. I would have to follow him around all day long! He seems to go in spurts. This last couple weeks have been horrid. His sister and him go back and forth. She is the 4 year old who ran from me and the one I made a behavior chart for. I would do a chart for the 2 year old but can't imagine he would understand any of it.

The sock thing is also a request by the parents. He has a history of being hospitalized for colds I guess, so they are hypersensitive to it. In the summer I take them off, but winter they stay on because of cold. I asked parents to bring slippers because I don't allow shoes in the house. Haven't brought any yet. I may go to the second hand store and see if I can find any in his size that can just stay here.

**Blackcat31** · 01-06-2011, 08:45 AM

Take him outside maybe??.....let him run wild until he gets it out of his system. I have also found that alot of 2 yr olds are not capable of playing quietly...they require an adult to get them involved in activities. I am not a big fan of adult regulated play and love free play myself but I have found that if I am busy or not mediating 2 yr olds they do run wild. They need to be engaged in something that holds their interest and inspires them to stay occupied. He is obviously getting the attention he is needing but is getting it in the wrong way. But to a 2 year old ANY attention, positive or negative is attention....so he is winning that one. Sort of seems like he is bored maybe?

Also, as Crystal said...I would forget the battle with socks. He doesn't care so why should you? Personally, I think bare feet on so many kids in my house at one time is icky but I haven't had to have that battle so....... Maybe get him a pair of tights? LOL!! I have a 11 month old boy whos parents put tights on him so he can't go barefoot...whatever...it's not a fashion show so they win that one. Plus where we live it is COLD!

**Blackcat31** · 01-06-2011, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by sahm2three

Redirection doesn't work. I would have to follow him around all day long! He seems to go in spurts. This last couple weeks have been horrid. His sister and him go back and forth. She is the 4 year old who ran from me and the one I made a behavior chart for. I would do a chart for the 2 year old but can't imagine he would understand any of it.

The sock thing is also a request by the parents. He has a history of being hospitalized for colds I guess, so they are hypersensitive to it. In the summer I take them off, but winter they stay on because of cold. I asked parents to bring slippers because I don't allow shoes in the house. Haven't brought any yet. I may go to the second hand store and see if I can find any in his size that can just stay here.

How do the kids behave at home? This sort of sounds as though the parents let their kids run wild at home so you are only getting behavior the kids are used too....maybe you should be talking with the parents whenever their kid(s) can't behave at your house...give the responsibilty to the parent.

**melskids** · 01-06-2011, 09:01 AM

do you have enough room to create a sectioned off space just for him? i have the same trouble right now with a 19 month old. i put two bookshelves coming out from the wall, and gate the "fourth wall". i filled the shelves with appropriate toys for that age group, and now call it my "toddler" section.

he still has plenty of room for play, (about 6x8 foot area) but no longer bothers the other kids. of course, he has now taken to chucking all of his toys over the gate, but once he does, theyre gone. he'll soon learn that he wont have anything to play with when he does that.

**Live and Learn** · 01-06-2011, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by crystal

i'd suggest redirection, limited choices and positive reinforcement, but that has all been said before....

If he's bringing you so much stress, perhaps you need to find a replacement for him.

On the sock thing.....if the cold floor doesn't bother him, then why are you insistent about it? Seems that you are causing yourself added issues by battling something that really doesn't need to be battled. Let him take them off, or try reverse psychology. Take his socks off of him first and tell him he cannot wear them. He might decide he wants them on

this!!

**Live and Learn** · 01-06-2011, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by melskids

he has now taken to chucking all of his toys over the gate, but once he does, theyre gone. he'll soon learn that he wont have anything to play with when he does that.

I only time out for hitting, biting, and kicking. In six years only one time out because I watch them like a prison warden and nip things in the bud before they escalate.:

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I DO however put TOYS in time out. I say, "if you can't play nice with MY TOYS then I won't share them with you." ...and I take the toy away from her for the day.

**Unregistered** · 01-06-2011, 09:11 AM

sorry to sound rude but your comment about not likinmg 2yr olds and youre a provider makes me wanna vomit...how sad .......................

**My4SunshineGirlsNY** · 01-06-2011, 09:19 AM

I have a mischievous 2 year old daycare boy as well and when he can't tollerate a time out (he gets them for hitting, throwing things), I have to put him in the pack n play. It gives me a piece of mind that he isn't hurting anyone or getting into things he's not supposed to or destroying things. When he gets in trouble he starts finding things to throw and I will NOT have a hard toy go through my TV or hit another child (which he has hit my other daycare boy with hard toys many times and my own girls also).

I suggest the pack n play...if redirection and keeping him calm and busy with other activities isn't working, as most of the time it doesn't work with my 2 year old daycare boy, it's pack n play you go....then I talk to him after about why he was in there and he listens, which is excellent...but then he's back to doing the same thing not too long after. But consistancy is the key, you may think it's a waste of time, he's not listening, but EVENTUALLY they start to get it...took my own daughter to age 5 to finally get it, but I'm glad I was always consistant with her as she now understands the consequenses. She had seen her time in the playpen all too often between the age of 2-3

**sahm2three** · 01-06-2011, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Crystal

went back and re-read your post. Ya know, this right here says alot. Perhaps you should cater to infants or preschool and school age. Might save you a BIG headache.

I guess that was a bit harsh. Not what you said, but what I sad. I don't REALLY dislike 2 year olds. They are just a challenge a lot of the time! They can be very funny and good comedy relief. I just have a house FULL of boys. And they all feed off of eachother. I would never be able to do anything other than watch their every move if I were to try to nip every bad behavior in the bud.

And the person who suggested that they run wild at home. They parents are fantastic. But I do think they may not be running the show completely at home. Also, they are older parents, so to me, the kids are more like grandchildren to them than children. They are overstimulated with LOTS and LOTS of toys at home, and so I don't think that they really play with toys. So they don't really play here with toys. They run and bounce off the walls. Ugh.

**cillybean83** · 01-06-2011, 09:25 AM

hmmm, if you just point blank don't like 2 year olds, I guess my only suggestion would be to not watch 2 year olds...but that doesn't always work!! :

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i would just forget about the sock thing, if the parents have an issue with it, they need to talk to him and work that out themselves...all the other stuff I think comes with the territory of having a 2 year old around, I've come to the conclusion that 2 year olds are scary creatures! Just watch him like a hawk and if he can't act right put him in a pack n play or like someone else suggested block off an area where he can go hog wild and not disrupt anyone else

sorry you're dealing with this

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