Is this Allowed?

[LindseyA]

I also had really young mother (15) who would always get rides from grandma, aunts, uncles, cousins to pick up and drop off her baby. I always admired the family members who would give the rides, because it probably was a hassle but did it anyway. Young mom would always seem grateful and often embarrassed if other parents came at the same time. I have to give her props. She had the attitude of "I got myself in this mess, I have to deal with it and work hard for my child"
I would def call licensing though

[Thriftylady]

Thanks for your replies, I will call licensing today. I'm really not comfortable with him picking her up but mom got an attitude when I told her it may not be allowed so I'm hoping licensing rules will take it out of my hands.

I would tell her it is against the rules then, I doubt she will check herself.

[Fiddlesticks]

Hm. I have never had this situation come up at daycare, and I would be interested to know if it against licensing rules. Here we can have a high school student leave class to pick up an elementary/middle school sibling if they have to leave school early. I know because my son fainted during mass at school, my husband was out if town, I was here with 10 daycare children I was unable to transport, and my daughter left high school, brought my son to me, and went back to class. When I called the high school to see if that was a possibility they said, "Sure, it happens all the time, we will send her out right away." My son was fine, by the way, my children are just like fainting goats, over heated? Standing too long? See something that turns their stomach? Over they go.

[Blackcat31]

Hm. I have never had this situation come up at daycare, and I would be interested to know if it against licensing rules. Here we can have a high school student leave class to pick up an elementary/middle school sibling if they have to leave school early. I know because my son fainted during mass at school, my husband was out if town, I was here with 10 daycare children I was unable to transport, and my daughter left high school, brought my son to me, and went back to class. When I called the high school to see if that was a possibility they said, "Sure, it happens all the time, we will send her out right away." My son was fine, by the way, my children are just like fainting goats, over heated? Standing too long? See something that turns their stomach? Over they go.

We are in the same state.

Licensing rules say something along the lines of "release of child to an adult or assigned party" but does not legally spell it out.

However, for insurance and personal liability reasons I would never agree to allow a child to be released to a minor. Even if a parent gives permission.

Parents can't waive their rights to sue you should something happen and a signed permission slip will not protect you.

My licensor said it should always be a parent, adult, guardian or assigned adult.

[daycarediva]

What if the parent is a minor? You can't legally keep a 17 year old mom from picking up her baby if she has a drivers license...
BTW, I had it happen to me - 3 moms in the same year... one 16, two were 17 (small town in IL in 2009).
Not saying I liked it, but the girls were the parents; I also had their moms co-sign the contracts

As a teen Mom myself, I was legally emancipated and could sign contracts as an adult.

My daughter was in daycare when I was 16 and yes I picked her up and dropped her off. Thankfully no one ever made me feel 'less' or gave the impression that they didn't like releasing my child to me, because I was/am a very good parent.

I would check with licensing and CYA, but if it's legal and the parents sign him on as an authorized pick up person, you can't withhold the child. My own daughter is almost 16 now and FAR more responsible than most of my daycare parents.

[Thriftylady]

As a teen Mom myself, I was legally emancipated and could sign contracts as an adult.

My daughter was in daycare when I was 16 and yes I picked her up and dropped her off. Thankfully no one ever made me feel 'less' or gave the impression that they didn't like releasing my child to me, because I was/am a very good parent.

I would check with licensing and CYA, but if it's legal and the parents sign him on as an authorized pick up person, you can't withhold the child. My own daughter is almost 16 now and FAR more responsible than most of my daycare parents.

To me a 16 yr old parent should be able to pick up their child because they are the parent. That is the difference. I would ask a parent to cosign the contract to CYA. But if not the parent I would have issues with it.

[crazydaycarelady]

I had an older brother that used to pick up his two younger siblings on occasion. I did not have a problem with it. That is what worked best for the family on those days and he was on the pick up list.

[Unregistered]

Honestly, if you tell the parents that you wont allow it I expect that they will term shortly. Parents do what is convenient for them. If the 17 year old is convenient for them to pick up then that is what they will do. I suspect they will find a place that will have no issue with the 17 picking up.

[Play Care]

I had an older brother that used to pick up his two younger siblings on occasion. I did not have a problem with it. That is what worked best for the family on those days and he was on the pick up list.

This.
I fail to see how *I* would be liable if the dcp's want the sibling to pick up, and sign off on it, provided it's allowed by licensing. I would make sure they sign a waiver. FWIW, while a waiver won't keep you from being sued, it can save your butt if you are sued - Say 17 yo sibling gets into an accident on the way home from dc, and younger child is hurt. Parents sue you saying you shouldn't have let younger child leave with older child - you have the waiver showing they wanted this arrangement...

[LysesKids]

As a teen Mom myself, I was legally emancipated and could sign contracts as an adult.

My daughter was in daycare when I was 16 and yes I picked her up and dropped her off. Thankfully no one ever made me feel 'less' or gave the impression that they didn't like releasing my child to me, because I was/am a very good parent.

I would check with licensing and CYA, but if it's legal and the parents sign him on as an authorized pick up person, you can't withhold the child. My own daughter is almost 16 now and FAR more responsible than most of my daycare parents.

Oh I never withheld the babies at pick up and my 16 parent was more responsible than the two 17 year olds (some feuding crap that got both booted within 6 months) - none were emancipated that's why the grandparents had to cosign the daycare contract

BTW, my oldest dd had my first grandchild just after she turned 17 (she's 30 and has 4 kids now)... she too was emancipated and a very responsible parent; she had already graduated High school and had a job and an apartment. She now makes more $ than any other person in the family

[daycaremum]

I would certainly check with licensing (I am in Ontario Canada and can be legally independent, so the decision would be mine alone).

If it was up to me, I would have absolutely no problem releasing a child to their teenage sibling as young as 13 if that is what the parents requested of me. Of course a 13 year old sibling would be walking them home, but an older one may be driving. I would also check the driving laws, in Ontario there is a tiered licensing system and each tier has different rules about who may be in the car with the young driver…

If it's all "legal" and the parents request it and fill out a form that the individual is allowed to pick up the child, I would have no problem.

[KIDZRMYBIZ]

I laughed when I read OPs post. When I was 15-18yo in the early 90's, I picked up 2 kids (2yo and 5yo beginning) from an in-home daycare after school and took them to their home around the block till their mom and dad got home. I usually walked us, but if the weather was bad, my dad would drive us in his mail jeep before I got my own car at 17. Yep, mail jeep, meaning no car seats, no seatbelts, not even seats! Just an open area with wheel wells to sit on. Was it ever fun! Times, boy how have they ever changed.

I remember the daycare lady not being so keen on the arrangement. But then, she had a pot-bellied pig running around loose, so who's to judge?!

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[Maggie]

I'm still waiting for a call back from my licensor to confirm but I read through the regulations and there's nothing about an age requirement just parent, guardian or person approved by parent or guardian. I told mom to write a letter saying that the brother is now an approved pick up person. I know it's none of my business but I've had this family for 12 years, the older brother from age 5-10 and 10 year old dcg since she was born so I know I'm going to be worried sick every time I see them pull away.

[Blackcat31]

I'm still waiting for a call back from my licensor to confirm but I read through the regulations and there's nothing about an age requirement just parent, guardian or person approved by parent or guardian. I told mom to write a letter saying that the brother is now an approved pick up person. I know it's none of my business but I've had this family for 12 years, the older brother from age 5-10 and 10 year old dcg since she was born so I know I'm going to be worried sick every time I see them pull away.

It might be a good idea to contact your insurance company too and see if your liability coverage has any specifics.

Honestly, if I had any doubts or concerns about the kids (both DCK's and the ones picking up) I'd have to share my thoughts with the parent. If something happened, I would have a hard time living with myself.

In this day and age and in this business especially we have to follow rules/regulations/laws but we also have to listen to our instincts and conscious too.

[Annalee]

I laughed when I read OPs post. When I was 15-18yo in the early 90's, I picked up 2 kids (2yo and 5yo beginning) from an in-home daycare after school and took them to their home around the block till their mom and dad got home. I usually walked us, but if the weather was bad, my dad would drive us in his mail jeep before I got my own car at 17. Yep, mail jeep, meaning no car seats, no seatbelts, not even seats! Just an open area with wheel wells to sit on. Was it ever fun! Times, boy how have they ever changed.

I remember the daycare lady not being so keen on the arrangement. But then, she had a pot-bellied pig running around loose, so who's to judge?!

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::I showed my mom this and she said when dad and her would come home each weekend from the military they would pack the back seat floor board with clothes to make it even with the backrow seat and my brothers and I would play the entire way home and sometimes fall asleep. Of course this was in the late 60's early 70's. Times do change.