thoughts and Ideas please, KIND OF LONG

[Josiegirl]

Have they tried white noise of any kind?
Please do keep us updated.

One of my dcgs just turned 2 yo. She only sleeps 1-1 1/2 hours here but acts like she could've used more sleep. Then last night she tossed and turned for 2 hours and never fell asleep til 9:30. I guess many nights are like that.

I really think some kids' inner clocks don't want to cooperate with what we'd like them to do. The term night owl had to come from somewhere.

[Country Kids]

She also maybe getting her second wind! I have seen where some people will be sleeping, take a nap and then between the hours of 6-9 get their second wind. Depending how hard she is sleeping 4 hours between nap and betime may not be enough time for her to be tired again.

Are the parents playing her hard in the two hours she is awake with them or is it rush home, eat dinner, clean up, start getting ready for bed. I honestly don't know any child I have seen except maybe one that was ready for bed at 7:00-8;00. I did'nt even do a bedtime till 9:00 when mine where little because that gave us enough time to dinner, clean up, have some family time and then they were ready for bath and settle down.

They still were getting 9-10 hours of sleep a night by going to bed at 9:00. They took good naps and to this day both of my girls will be in bed by 9:00 or 10 at the latest. The boys will go to bed at a descent hour if its quiet but mostly night owls.

[daycare]

She also maybe getting her second wind! I have seen where some people will be sleeping, take a nap and then between the hours of 6-9 get their second wind. Depending how hard she is sleeping 4 hours between nap and betime may not be enough time for her to be tired again.

Are the parents playing her hard in the two hours she is awake with them or is it rush home, eat dinner, clean up, start getting ready for bed. I honestly don't know any child I have seen except maybe one that was ready for bed at 7:00-8;00. I did'nt even do a bedtime till 9:00 when mine where little because that gave us enough time to dinner, clean up, have some family time and then they were ready for bath and settle down.

They still were getting 9-10 hours of sleep a night by going to bed at 9:00. They took good naps and to this day both of my girls will be in bed by 9:00 or 10 at the latest. The boys will go to bed at a descent hour if its quiet but mostly night owls.

I think it would be possible to do a later bed time if it were not for the pure fact that they have to be up so early for the older sibling to start school at 730am, yes our elementary starts that early. and dcm has to be to work at 8, so no way they could sleep in and still get enough sleep.

But i do agree it does sound like maybe not enough face time with dcp.......

[Thriftylady]

I think it would be possible to do a later bed time if it were not for the pure fact that they have to be up so early for the older sibling to start school at 730am, yes our elementary starts that early. and dcm has to be to work at 8, so no way they could sleep in and still get enough sleep.

But i do agree it does sound like maybe not enough face time with dcp.......

7:30 AM school? With all the studies saying kids should actually be starting later? Insane. Our HS starts at 7:20 and I don't agree with that.

[Country Kids]

7:30 AM school? With all the studies saying kids should actually be starting later? Insane. Our HS starts at 7:20 and I don't agree with that.

Alot of our elementary schools here go 7:45-3:45 I believe. They don't go on Fridays or have a half a day on Fridays but what a long, long day!

[Thriftylady]

Alot of our elementary schools here go 7:45-3:45 I believe. They don't go on Fridays or have a half a day on Fridays but what a long, long day!

Our HS is 7:20-2:20, our elementary is shortly before 9 to around 3 or a bit after. But so many studies now say kids brains work better on later hours.

[jenboo]

7:30 AM school? With all the studies saying kids should actually be starting later? Insane. Our HS starts at 7:20 and I don't agree with that.

My nieces and nephew start before 8. Full day kinder, no half days ect. They are 5, 7 and 10. They all go to bed around 730 and fall asleep right away and have a hard time getting up in the mornings.

[daycare]

My question would be, what are the parents doing while the child is acting up in bed? Are they going in every couple of minutes to tell her to go to sleep or are they just letting her be in there alone?

this is the one question i have not asked and is a GREAT question....

[Thriftylady]

Not trying to hijack, but I love how we all come here with different thoughts about something and in the mash we can usually come up with something useful. I love that about this forum.

[Josiegirl]

Not trying to hijack, but I love how we all come here with different thoughts about something and in the mash we can usually come up with something useful. I love that about this forum.

I completely agree! Brainstorming is always helpful. There are times I get answers here and feel like smacking myself, saying Now why didn't I think of that before?? Or something will be a good reminder for me, or a spine-strengthener.

[laundrymom]

I completely agree! Brainstorming is always helpful. There are times I get answers here and feel like smacking myself, saying Now why didn't I think of that before?? Or something will be a good reminder for me, or a spine-strengthener.

Absolutely.

[daycare]

Not trying to hijack, but I love how we all come here with different thoughts about something and in the mash we can usually come up with something useful. I love that about this forum.

not hijacking at all. I can agree 100% now I have a full list of questions to ask the parents when we meet in a few hours.. I love this form and all of you lovely ladies

[hope]

I would ask how much exercise the child gets. If the dcg runs around outside after dinner or rides her bike she may tire out at bed time.

[daycare]

I would ask how much exercise the child gets. If the dcg runs around outside after dinner or rides her bike she may tire out at bed time.

another great question...thanks you guys!!!!!

[Snowmom]

I agree with everything that's already been said, but wanted to add from my own experience too.
Diffusing Lavender calms and quiets many children.
I have friends who have had terrible sleepers- hard to calm at bedtime. When they tried Lavender, it was a night/day difference.
When my kids are having a tough day, I add a drop to their lotion and apply it and they always sleep sounder and longer.

Also- there's no need to join any MLM groups to buy good oils.
Native American Nutritionals sells organic oils and they're cheaper than Young Living and DoTerra.