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  • Unregistered

    #61
    This is in CA and it is licensed. You can do this, people. You can. Lol Forcing young children to sit in a circle and learn 123 ABC and sit at a desk and color in a photocopy of a dog and say 'd is for dog' is pointless and is just simply not developmentally appropriate. This, what they do in this place, is how they learn. No sitting in a circle is going to teach them the way these experiences will. You can and should be doing these things. When you do a 'sensory bin' you are making a start towards this. And that's good. But if you take it up a notch, that's great. And, I'm sure in 20 years you will be. Right now, you say 'no no no way'. Just like 20 years ago you said no way would you do this silly messy sensory bin idea. This is real and its what these kids need. It is licensed and you can do it. There are 4 co-ops like this within 20 miles of me. There are non-coops near me doing these things. There are family childcares near me doing these things. All are lisenced. Here in CA, we have to be. Its so frustrating reading these comments. Yes, they are licensed. Yes, it is good for the kids. Yes, the children adjust well to Kindergarten. Yes, it is feasible to do these activities and make these environments. Omg. I get not wanting this craziness all over your house. I get it. But don't act like its some weird fringe movement. This is how kids learn best (and function best if you want to play the whole 'I'm not a teacher, i'm a daycare provider' thing).

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    • nannyde
      All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
      • Mar 2010
      • 7320

      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered
      This is in CA and it is licensed. You can do this, people. You can. Lol Forcing young children to sit in a circle and learn 123 ABC and sit at a desk and color in a photocopy of a dog and say 'd is for dog' is pointless and is just simply not developmentally appropriate. This, what they do in this place, is how they learn. No sitting in a circle is going to teach them the way these experiences will. You can and should be doing these things. When you do a 'sensory bin' you are making a start towards this. And that's good. But if you take it up a notch, that's great. And, I'm sure in 20 years you will be. Right now, you say 'no no no way'. Just like 20 years ago you said no way would you do this silly messy sensory bin idea. This is real and its what these kids need. It is licensed and you can do it. There are 4 co-ops like this within 20 miles of me. There are non-coops near me doing these things. There are family childcares near me doing these things. All are lisenced. Here in CA, we have to be. Its so frustrating reading these comments. Yes, they are licensed. Yes, it is good for the kids. Yes, the children adjust well to Kindergarten. Yes, it is feasible to do these activities and make these environments. Omg. I get not wanting this craziness all over your house. I get it. But don't act like its some weird fringe movement. This is how kids learn best (and function best if you want to play the whole 'I'm not a teacher, i'm a daycare provider' thing).
      I don't want to run a business with parents being half or a third of the caretakers every session. I don't want to run a business where I don't serve meals. I don't want to find clients that can pay $10 to $24 an hour. I don't want to maintain a property that requires parents to work by maintaining it and cleaning it up. I don't want to do parent meetings for three hour stretches weekly or monthly.

      I don't want to find clients who only need 5 to 7 hours of care a week for 32/33 weeks a year. Why are you frustrated hearing the responses? I don't know too many providers who could pull off this model. It takes a lot of land, a ton of high maintenance infrastructure. A huge supply fee for each family etc.

      Bev has been doing this for a LONG time and hasn't franchised. She sells her theory but to my knowledge she doesn't have multiple sites. You say kids SHOULD be doing this but it can't be replicated in a 50 hour daycare week with one adult per six kids.

      Do you GET that this is a play experience for a few hours a week for approximately 7.5 months a year?

      It's not child care. It's really awesome play in a REALLY awesome environment with a bunch of mommies there. The two day a week kids have mommy there half the time they are there. The three day a week kids have mommy there one of three days.

      And... Bev has been doing this for a long time. Where is her longitudinal research that says that kids who attend her program 5 to 7.5 hours a week for a total of 32 weeks a year for a couple of years score any higher in ANY measurable way in reading, math, science, social studies, and languages?

      Where's her research to show it has any lasting impact on outcomes? If compared to their economic counterparts, I can't see where these REALLY small exposures for a couple of years makes any lasting impact.

      Nobody is saying it's not cool and super fun for the kids. Your saying this is what we should be doing doesn't include how to fund it. If it were easily funded Ms Bev would have many many sites.
      http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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      • cheerfuldom
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7413

        #63
        I wouldnt call what she is doing daycare. I would say that she is hosting super awesome playdates. Many parents attend and it is for short periods. A working parent would not be getting daycare from this scenario. A stay at home parent would love the fact that they can go to school too and socialize with other parents. sounds like playdates to me. I am sure the kids have a blast and are learning, no arguments there, but I dont feel this is realistic for a home daycare to replicate in full. Here a single provider can have 10 to 12 kids. There is no way that one provider can supervise water play, free access to art, etc. while also having kids there for 10 hours a day with age range for babies to 5 years old plus serving meals. I do think there is some tips and inspiration to gain from the video but not a replication of her set up. Here there wouldnt be a demand for a few hours a day play program where parents have to be super involved and it would cost for a single child what you would pay a nanny. There are co ops in my area but all, that I know of, offer full day daycare and require minimal parent involvement.....like an hour a week. Now being from CA, I can tell you that there is a demand there. There is a high demand alternative programs and people are willing to pay for it so it doesnt surprise me at all that this is based in CA. I am currently in the midwest and no, there wouldnt be even close the interest here. Many people want to be as mainstream as possible......a free for all play based program that you have to pay high high fees for would not find a client base here in my opinion.

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