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  • Laura5287
    Daycare.com Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 57

    OMG...I Just Can't Catch a Break

    Ok, so this week I say I will start each day with a new attitude...each day is a new beginning, right? By the end of the day it all goes out the window. Got up today..said to myself...yesterday was bad, start over with a smile on my face, I was actually excited to start the day which hasn't happened in awhile. So I deal with the dad dropping off the 5 year old...he has some kind of attitude...who knows why this time...I let it go...3 year old comes in everything is fine...we eat breakfast and then BAM...three year old bites me, put him in time out-he has to apologize afterwards and gets a warning. Off he goes to play, within ten minutes, he bites the 5 year old. Doesn't leave a mark just a wet spot. I hear nothing out the of the 5 year old except for a calm statment he just bit me. I walk over to the 3 year old, told him it is not nice to bite, put him in time out and he apologized afterwards. I text his mom telling her that he bit again. I am not sure what to do. I just had this conversation with the 5 year olds mom about nothing happening. That her son can't push but he can raise his voice if something were to happen. Just had this conversation on Friday. UGH! If it is not one thing, it is another with these two boys. There is no way to tell when he is going to bite. He just does it out of nowhere. For no reason.
    So I am sure the mother of the 5 year old thinks I was not watching and did nothing as she has told me before. I feel horrible that this happens to her child. How should I word the conversation with her if she gives me attitude again? I am doing everything I can do prevent this from happening.
  • Rockgirl
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2013
    • 2204

    #2
    Here the 3 year old biter would be gone. No way would I tolerate being bitten, and biting twice in a day? Bye-bye. Three years old is WAY too old to be biting, anyway. Toddlers do it normally out of frustration, but a three year old knows better. Just my take.

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    • Martha Stewart
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 73

      #3
      I think I'd have to let the 3 year old go. Honestly, if I were being bitten as a 5 year old I would want to push away someone who was repeatedly biting me. For the 3yo to bite you, that would be the final straw. I would go ahead an give them notice. It's hard to correct biting.

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      • Gemma
        Childcare Provider
        • Mar 2015
        • 1277

        #4
        I'm sure the other members will have some great advises for you! .... me, the minute I read "parents gives attitude" I'm thinking bye bye family

        :hug::hug:

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        • Onawhim
          Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 90

          #5
          My dcg4 bit her brother (3) today. For no reason other then to hurt him. Drives me foolish.

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          • Heidi
            Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 7121

            #6
            I would also term the 3 year old, effective immediately. He bit YOU! I'd have called them for pick up then. Same as PP, if he was 18 months old, I'd handle it differently, but he's three.

            Then, I'd sit down and conference with the 5 year olds parents. I'd empathize with their wanting to protect their child, and let them know that the child with aggression issues is no longer in your program.

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            • daycare
              Advanced Daycare.com *********
              • Feb 2011
              • 16259

              #7
              The bitter needs to go. At 3 that is too old to be doing this.

              Sorry dcb is a safety issue. I must let him go today.

              You have to protect the children and I know you are trying but if you can't stop it then you have no other choice but to remove the problem.

              This bitter needs one on one care

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              • Unregistered

                #8
                I would put the 3 year old in a pnp every time for an hour or so and keep reminding him why he is there. "If you can't play nice with XXX then you have to play by yourself"
                Are you trying to keep due to low enrollment?

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                • Heidi
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 7121

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered
                  I would put the 3 year old in a pnp every time for an hour or so and keep reminding him why he is there. "If you can't play nice with XXX then you have to play by yourself"
                  Are you trying to keep due to low enrollment?
                  Woah! Why not just tie him to a post?

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Heidi
                    Woah! Why not just tie him to a post?
                    Lmao. I wasn't going to say it.

                    Yeah sorry unreg. That is not a good idea.

                    PNP should only be used for sleeping.

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                    • Gemma
                      Childcare Provider
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 1277

                      #11
                      Originally posted by daycare
                      PNP should only be used for sleeping.
                      I use the pnp to teach kids to walk in the house, instead of running, it has worked wonders and I don't find nothing wrong with doing this.

                      When a child KNOWS the "no running in the house" rule, but insists on running even after my warning, that child goes to play in pnp, until he/she is willing to respect the rules (I give chances to try again)
                      I don't see this as punishment, just a direct consequence...if you can't walk in a way that is safe for everyone (I have babies on the ground) you end up playing in a restricted area.

                      ETA I feel I should specify that I'm talking about "toddlers", older kids would have table activities

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                      • daycare
                        Advanced Daycare.com *********
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gemma
                        I use the pnp to teach kids to walk in the house, instead of running, it has worked wonders and I don't find nothing wrong with doing this.

                        When a child KNOWS the "no running in the house" rule, but insists on running even after my warning, that child goes to play in pnp, until he/she is willing to respect the rules (I give chances to try again)
                        I don't see this as punishment, just a direct consequence...if you can't walk in a way that is safe for everyone (I have babies on the ground) you end up playing in a restricted area.

                        ETA I feel I should specify that I'm talking about "toddlers", older kids would have table activities
                        I guess it depends on what state you are in. In CA we can not use as PNP for anything other than sleeping. same with a high chair, only for eating or can use for a child to do art at., but may not use for any other reason.

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                        • Gemma
                          Childcare Provider
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1277

                          #13
                          When Licensing comes up with an alternative method that actually work, then I will change what I'm doing, until then, my job is to keep the kids safe, and that's the only way I can think of.

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                          • daycare
                            Advanced Daycare.com *********
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16259

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gemma
                            When Licensing comes up with an alternative method that actually work, then I will change what I'm doing, until then, my job is to keep the kids safe, and that's the only way I can think of.
                            to each their own. i am sure if we had that as an option, some would use it.

                            BUT for an hour or so?? that's just not ok....

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                            • LysesKids
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 2836

                              #15
                              As an infant/young toddler only childcare... I have issues with using highchairs or PNP's for something other than what they are actually needed for; eating & sleeping. In my home the kids are free range & other options will be and are found. of course I follow a lot of Montessori ways too... no offense, the biter would have been gone already if I took that age still (I did at one time)

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