Own Daycare But Not Run It

[daycarediva]

I think op means she is caring for one family's children at a time, but has multiple babysitting jobs with different families.

When I was legally exempt, I cared for the legal (2) children at a time which is the legal limit here, only I did shifts 7-3 for nurses and 3:30-5:30 for after school kids. I cared for a total of 4 children though, just never all at once.

[Blackcat31]

I think op means she is caring for one family's children at a time, but has multiple babysitting jobs with different families.

When I was legally exempt, I cared for the legal (2) children at a time which is the legal limit here, only I did shifts 7-3 for nurses and 3:30-5:30 for after school kids. I cared for a total of 4 children though, just never all at once.

That's how I read it. She I caring for ONE family at a time.

She cares for many different families but only ONE at a time.

The licensing reg posted, does not address that.

Talk about confusing... :confused:

[Blackcat31]

you can not be lic exempt in CA if you are caring for more than one families children.

so if that family has 4 kids then you are clear, but you can not care for any other children outside of that family other than you own without having a LIC.

So every Saturday night babysitter in California is operating illegally?

Say Suzie babysits the Smith kids (4 of them) on Friday and then babysits the Jones kids (7 of them) on Saturday night and then the Miller's kids (2 of them) on Sunday afternoon, she would be an illegal provider???

[Jack Sprat]

So every Saturday night babysitter in California is operating illegally?

Say Suzie babysits the Smith kids (4 of them) on Friday and then babysits the Jones kids (7 of them) on Saturday night and then the Miller's kids (2 of them) on Sunday afternoon, she would be an illegal provider???

I think she is in the clear then, as it's one family at a time. Now, if Suzy was watching the Jones and Smith kids together on a Saturday in her home I believe that would be illegal. But, only if they paid Suzy cash.

[Blackcat31]

[/B]

I think she is in the clear then, as it's one family at a time. Now, if Suzy was watching the Jones and Smith kids together on a Saturday in her home I believe that would be illegal. But, only if they paid Suzy cash.

Thats what I am thinking...

I think this is what OP is thinking too..

But Daycare is saying she is illegal so Im just trying to make sense of it all...

Thank goodness I don't live in Cali! :: ::

[Crystal]

Caring for more than one families children, either at the same time or on different days, would exclude her from the exemption regulation. I ran in to this when I first applied for my license and was told that ONLY one family, otherwise you are considered to be running a child care home and must be licensed.

Yes, it is confusing. But, OP can make a quick call to her local licensing agency and ask to speak to the worker of the day for clarification of the law.

[daycare]

as we say in this very sunny state everything is very grey when it comes to LIC. you ask how are things sunny and grey at the same time right????? Yeah that's CA

Again, I would call and talk to LIC.

My understanding is NO you can not do that. you can only care for one family period.

how can you prove to LIC that you are only caring for one family at a time, how can you prove that another family is not dropping off later.

I asked this questions many moons ago and I was told no. One family.

BC...if you did that as a babysitter and it was every once in awhile you would be ok, but if you did it on an on-going basis as a business, then you need to be licensed.

[daycare]

Caring for more than one families children, either at the same time or on different days, would exclude her from the exemption regulation. I ran in to this when I first applied for my license and was told that ONLY one family, otherwise you are considered to be running a child care home and must be licensed.

Yes, it is confusing. But, OP can make a quick call to her local licensing agency and ask to speak to the worker of the day for clarification of the law.

ditto....I was told the same exact thing...one family period.

[Howl]

This is all very confusing. There are thousands of people who babysit for multiple families but not at the same time. I've used babysitting sites like care and sittercity and there is no mention of this on any of them.

[Howl]

Also I must reiterate that I haven't started the process of becoming a family care home. Some of you are telling me the status I need to have sometime before I start the formal process, I get that and I'll switch to one family only at some point but today I'm the babysitter. I appreciate all of the guidance. This thread has surely taken a detour from my initial question but I hope that other people find the conversation and information helpful.

[daycare]

Also I must reiterate that I haven't started the process of becoming a family care home. Some of you are telling me the status I need to have sometime before I start the formal process, I get that and I'll switch to one family only at some point but today I'm the babysitter. I appreciate all of the guidance. This thread has surely taken a detour from my initial question but I hope that other people find the conversation and information helpful.

it is because of your other questions you have asked us.

we are trying to help.

to answer your question about care.com, my understanding is that there is no lic involved because you would care for a child outside of your own home. other wise you fall under in-home family childcare provider which there are rules and regulations.

The laws are confusing, even those of us that are licensed will agree with that. It does seem that things are not very clear most of the time which causes us much grief.

I hope that our answers for your questions have helped you so that you can avoid getting into any trouble and be able to successfully open a family childcare.

[Thriftylady]

Also I must reiterate that I haven't started the process of becoming a family care home. Some of you are telling me the status I need to have sometime before I start the formal process, I get that and I'll switch to one family only at some point but today I'm the babysitter. I appreciate all of the guidance. This thread has surely taken a detour from my initial question but I hope that other people find the conversation and information helpful.

But if you get caught doing it even if you consider yourself only a "babysitter" you likely will not get a license. And as far as the original question you need to call and ask about that as well. It would only take one complaint from a neighbor or parent for you to never be able to get licensed. To me that wouldn't be worth it.

[AuntTami]

I can see where the confusion comes from. But in black cats scenario, I would say Suzy is a babysitter IF she goes to everyone's houses. Once you start taking children into YOUR home, then I would say you're considered an in-home, even if it's only one family at a time. If it's one family, period.

In my mind the reason "Saturday night sitters" don't need licenses is because they GO to the PARENTS home, not the children in their home.

[mom2many]

I can see where the confusion comes from. But in black cats scenario, I would say Suzy is a babysitter IF she goes to everyone's houses. Once you start taking children into YOUR home, then I would say you're considered an in-home, even if it's only one family at a time. If it's one family, period.

In my mind the reason "Saturday night sitters" don't need licenses is because they GO to the PARENTS home, not the children in their home.

I agree with this!

[daycare]

I can see where the confusion comes from. But in black cats scenario, I would say Suzy is a babysitter IF she goes to everyone's houses. Once you start taking children into YOUR home, then I would say you're considered an in-home, even if it's only one family at a time. If it's one family, period.

In my mind the reason "Saturday night sitters" don't need licenses is because they GO to the PARENTS home, not the children in their home.

Yes I agree, this is exactly what I was saying. if you are watching a child in someone else's home on an ongoing basis, you would be a Nanny. If it's on occasion in their home, then you would be a babysitter.

Once you bring it into your own home, you are now falling under in-home childcare provider, which there are rules and regulations, one of them is obtaining a license.