Own Daycare But Not Run It

[Crystal]

Yes and no. You have to be there at least 20% of each day.

Also, when its in home you assume a TON of liability that could not only cost you your license it could end you up with criminal charges. You are 100% responsible for everything that happens.

I believe you can only be gone 20% o the time. You have to be there 80% of the time.

ETA: I just saw that you corrected that! Sorry!

[daycare]

I believe you can only be gone 20% o the time. I did correct myself later. You have to be there 80% of the time.

That's correct. I said if backwards the first time. Lol

[Howl]

I don't yet own a daycare. I haven't attended a orientation yet as it's not until April! I thought about doing the online version but I have too many questions for that to be efficient. It's why I came here to ask specific questions. I babysit for 8-10 families in two weeks time. Thank you for the information, I found the 20% reference last night.

[Crystal]

LOL! I edited my post at the same time you posted.

[Crystal]

I don't yet own a daycare. I haven't attended a orientation yet as it's not until April! I thought about doing the online version but I have too many questions for that to be efficient. It's why I came here to ask specific questions. I babysit for 8-10 families in two weeks time. Thank you for the information, I found the 20% reference last night.

Make sure that you are only caring for children from one family prior to being licensed. Otherwise it is illegal and you could receive a hefty fine.

[daycare]

I don't yet own a daycare. I haven't attended a orientation yet as it's not until April! I thought about doing the online version but I have too many questions for that to be efficient. It's why I came here to ask specific questions. I babysit for 8-10 families in two weeks time. Thank you for the information, I found the 20% reference last night.

FYI. without a license you can not care for more than one families children.

[Howl]

I'm a babysitter so those regulations don't yet apply to me. Thanks for telling me about the switch I need to make right before I start the process. I appreciate that.

[Crystal]

I'm a babysitter so those regulations don't yet apply to me. Thanks for telling me about the switch I need to make right before I start the process. I appreciate that.

Believe it or not, those laws do apply to you. It's in title 22 regs.

[daycare]

I'm a babysitter so those regulations don't yet apply to me. Thanks for telling me about the switch I need to make right before I start the process. I appreciate that.

If I were you, I would discontinue offering services until you get your license. You could be shut down and then will not be eligible for a license. the fines and penalties are steep.

[Crystal]

102358 LICENSE EXEMPTIONS 102358
(a) Licensure is required before family child care is provided except in the following situations relative to
family child care homes as specified in Health and Safety Code Section 1596.792:
HANDBOOK BEGINS HERE
Health and Safety Code Section 1596.792 provides in pertinent part:
(1) Any family day care home providing care for the children of only one family in addition to the
operator's own children.
(2) Any cooperative arrangement between parents for the care of their children where no payment is
involved and the arrangement meets all of the following conditions:
(A) In a cooperative arrangement, parents shall combine their efforts so that each parent, or
set of parents, rotates as the responsible care giver with respect to all the children in the
cooperative.
(B) Any person caring for children shall be a parent, legal guardian, stepparent, grandparent,
aunt, uncle, or adult sibling of at least one of the children in the cooperative.
(C) There can be no payment of money or receipt of in-kind income in exchange for the
provision of care. This does not prohibit in-kind contributions of snacks, games, toys,
blankets for napping, pillows, and other materials parents deem appropriate for their
children. It is not the intent of this paragraph to prohibit payment for outside activities,
the amount of that may not exceed the actual cost of the activity.
(D) No more than 12 children are receiving care in the same place at the same time.
(3) Any arrangement for the receiving and care of children by a relative.
(4) Any child day care program that operates only one day per week for no more than four hours on
that one day.
HANDBOOK ENDS HERE
NOTE: Authority cited: Section 1596.81, Health and Safety Code. Reference: Sections 1596.792 and
1596.81(b), Health and Safety Code.

[Howl]

I should've clarified that I babysit for one family at a time. If that makes a difference. Again, thanks for the advice. I have a lot to consider.

[daycare]

I should've clarified that I babysit for one family at a time. If that makes a difference. Again, thanks for the advice. I have a lot to consider.

but you are still in violation. it does not matter if you are caring for 20 families 1 at a time, you still can't do that.

I am not trying to call you out, I am just trying to help you, but if you are only caring for one family then why are you worried about capacity laws?

[Blackcat31]

102358 LICENSE EXEMPTIONS 102358
(a) Licensure is required before family child care is provided except in the following situations relative to
family child care homes as specified in Health and Safety Code Section 1596.792:
HANDBOOK BEGINS HERE
Health and Safety Code Section 1596.792 provides in pertinent part:
(1) Any family day care home providing care for the children of only one family in addition to the
operator's own children.
(2) Any cooperative arrangement between parents for the care of their children where no payment is
involved and the arrangement meets all of the following conditions:
(A) In a cooperative arrangement, parents shall combine their efforts so that each parent, or
set of parents, rotates as the responsible care giver with respect to all the children in the
cooperative.
(B) Any person caring for children shall be a parent, legal guardian, stepparent, grandparent,
aunt, uncle, or adult sibling of at least one of the children in the cooperative.
(C) There can be no payment of money or receipt of in-kind income in exchange for the
provision of care. This does not prohibit in-kind contributions of snacks, games, toys,
blankets for napping, pillows, and other materials parents deem appropriate for their
children. It is not the intent of this paragraph to prohibit payment for outside activities,
the amount of that may not exceed the actual cost of the activity.
(D) No more than 12 children are receiving care in the same place at the same time.
(3) Any arrangement for the receiving and care of children by a relative.
(4) Any child day care program that operates only one day per week for no more than four hours on
that one day.
HANDBOOK ENDS HERE
NOTE: Authority cited: Section 1596.81, Health and Safety Code. Reference: Sections 1596.792 and
1596.81(b), Health and Safety Code.

So if the OP is only caring for one family in addition to her own, she would be license exempt?

That's how I am reading/interpreting the that ^^^ :confused:

Maybe I am missing something but that is similar to how my state's regs read and we CAN provide care for one family's children without a license. Any more than one family and we have to have a license.

[daycare]

So if the OP is only caring for one family in addition to her own, she would be license exempt?

That's how I am reading/interpreting the that ^^^ :confused:

Maybe I am missing something but that is similar to how my state's regs read and we CAN provide care for one family's children without a license. Any more than one family and we have to have a license.

you can not be lic exempt in CA if you are caring for more than one families children.

so if that family has 4 kids then you are clear, but you can not care for any other children outside of that family other than you own without having a LIC.

[daycare]

So if the OP is only caring for one family in addition to her own, she would be license exempt?

That's how I am reading/interpreting the that ^^^ :confused:

Maybe I am missing something but that is similar to how my state's regs read and we CAN provide care for one family's children without a license. Any more than one family and we have to have a license.

you can not be lic exempt in CA if you are caring for more than one families children.

so if that family has 4 kids then you are clear, but you can not care for any other children outside of that family other than you own without having a LIC.