What Is Your Policy On No Immunizations?

[sally]

My kids are up to date on all vaccines. They have never been sick in their lives with anything more than a cold. I only take vaccinated children in my daycare. The only child who isn't had to have a bone marrow transplant and is healthy now and is catching up on her vaccines.

[NightOwl]

Well, I used to be more lenient. But that's changing. Unvaxed children were never a threat before, I just thought of it as a personal choice. But obviously I was wrong and these diseases CAN make come backs. And I'm even more concerned because this is my home, not just a place of business. I won't take the chance of something coming into my home, possibly infecting my children and shutting down my business.

[Play Care]

I do not believe in the flu shot and do not require that one for attendance. It creates a temporary immunity to the versions of the virus in the vaccine, 1-2 yrs, and doesn't create long term immunity to any version, then later in life your immunity is impaired and you're more likely to die from the flu.

I don't mean to pick, but where are you finding this information? I tried a brief search last night and found no credible source that mentioned this. In fact, even the quack sources didn't mention it. :confused:

FWIW, I'm not necessarily for/against vaxing. I know people who have both had injuries from vaxing, and those who were permanently disabled from getting illness because they weren't vaxed, so I don't think it's cut and dried.

[daycare]

so my question never got answered. I guess no one has a policy on this issue I'm having. guess I'll have to wait until the lawyer gets back to me.

[Leigh]

I don't want to debate if its right or wrong not to vaccinate a child, I just want to know what your policy says on it.

I am seeing a huge trend in my state to not immunize your child. I say to each their own. However, I don't have anything in my policies about this. For example what will happen if something breaks out? The parents will still be responsible to pay for their spot even if the child can't attend due to a breakout, and so forth.

I am wondering if my current policy of you pay for the spot regardless of attendance is enough as it is?

Please share your policy on this.

Thanks

Yes, your policy of paying for the spot should be enough. I explain to parents that my tuition is calculated on a yearly basis, and that there are no exceptions to payment plans.

My policy states that ALL children must be vaccinated, and that anyone behind on vaccines must bring me a written plan from their clinic to get caught up (in the case of delayed vaccines or a child enrolling who is behind) and follow through with that plan.

[LysesKids]

Wow, according to your standard I am a neglectful parent. I have no reason why originally I did not. I just knew not to do my son (did my daughter). When he was 10 we found out that he was very chemical sensitive and that the vaccines could have caused some major issues if not death for him. God saved him. Now at 17 on a very spread out schedule we did vaccinate him knowing he was traveling overseas. And we have been treating the chemical sensitivities. But according to your standard, I am neglectful- really?!

I leave it up to my parents.

I guess I'm classified neglectful too... oh, wait the DPT caused seizures in 2 of my 3 kids, my youngest ended up in a coma for 24hrs at 2 months; yeah, I skipped numerous Vax due to medical issues in my immediate family & others because either my kids already had the disease or it conflicted with what I researched... I accept vaxed, alternate & non vaxers, but all my kids age out before age 2; Many in my care will not get the MMR while here because of being on the alternate vax path and I can't get it because of my medical issues.

[daycare]

Yes, your policy of paying for the spot should be enough. I explain to parents that my tuition is calculated on a yearly basis, and that there are no exceptions to payment plans.

My policy states that ALL children must be vaccinated, and that anyone behind on vaccines must bring me a written plan from their clinic to get caught up (in the case of delayed vaccines or a child enrolling who is behind) and follow through with that plan.

but I am being told by licensing that it is not. BECAUSE the vax child we be forced out of the daycare if something breaks out and does not have the choice to attend. This does not fall under illness.

[daycare]

I guess I'm classified neglectful too... oh, wait the DPT caused seizures in 2 of my 3 kids, my youngest ended up in a coma for 24hrs at 2 months; yeah, I skipped numerous Vax due to medical issues in my immediate family & others because either my kids already had the disease or it conflicted with what I researched... I accept vaxed, alternate & non vaxers, but all my kids age out before age 2; Many in my care will not get the MMR while here because of being on the alternate vax path and I can't get it because of my medical issues.

but this is completely different. You did it for medical reasons.

[Leigh]

but I am being told by licensing that it is not. BECAUSE the vax child we be forced out of the daycare if something breaks out and does not have the choice to attend. This does not fall under illness.

They don't have the choice to attend on your vacation days or on weekends, either, do they? That doesn't make sense to me. I guess I would just tell the parents that they can pay for the spot or find a new childcare situation. By making the choice to not vaccinate, they also make the choice to deal with the consequences of that (like the state not allowing them to attend daycare).

[daycare]

They don't have the choice to attend on your vacation days or on weekends, either, do they? That doesn't make sense to me. I guess I would just tell the parents that they can pay for the spot or find a new childcare situation. By making the choice to not vaccinate, they also make the choice to deal with the consequences of that (like the state not allowing them to attend daycare).

correct, so the state told me that I needed to supply them with a clear written contract outlining what will happen if a breakout occurs, inform them that it is the county's decision, not mine and that even though the child is out sick, they still have to pay.

I guess I can't explain right or something and was hoping that someone else has a section of their handbook that covers this very topic. But it also sounds like this may very state by state...

[Leigh]

correct, so the state told me that I needed to supply them with a clear written contract outlining what will happen if a breakout occurs, inform them that it is the county's decision, not mine and that even though the child is out sick, they still have to pay.

I guess I can't explain right or something and was hoping that someone else has a section of their handbook that covers this very topic. But it also sounds like this may very state by state...

Maybe a simple form for the parents of the unvaccinated to sign?

In the event of outbreak of contagious illness covered by vaccination, all unvaccinated children may not be allowed to attend for an amount of time specified by authorities. I have no control over these situations, but must comply with licensing rules. In such an event that your child can not attend due to being unvaccinated, full payment is still due each week in order to hold your child's position in my care.

[Unregistered]

Basically you need to say that payment is based on enrollment not attendance. If the state or county deems that the child/children are not allowed to attend the center due to a communicable illness for whatever reason payment will still be required per the contract.

I would also put something in there stating that if parents choose to term because of this situation they are still required to give written notice and provide 2 weeks (or whatever you require per your normal contract) payment. There will be parents that simply can't afford to be out of work and have kids home so they will end up terming and finding other care no mater what the "county or state says".

[Unregistered]

Basically you need to say that payment is based on enrollment not attendance. If the state or county deems that the child/children are not allowed to attend the center due to a communicable illness for whatever reason payment will still be required per the contract.

I would also put something in there stating that if parents choose to term because of this situation they are still required to give written notice and provide 2 weeks (or whatever you require per your normal contract) payment. There will be parents that simply can't afford to be out of work and have kids home so they will end up terming and finding other care no mater what the "county or state says".

I also think this should include all parents not just unvaccinated kids. You never know what new illness will pop up down the road that causes the kids to be forced home for an extended time.

[Unregistered]

Maybe a simple form for the parents of the unvaccinated to sign?

In the event of outbreak of contagious illness covered by vaccination, all unvaccinated children may not be allowed to attend for an amount of time specified by authorities. I have no control over these situations, but must comply with licensing rules. In such an event that your child can not attend due to being unvaccinated, full payment is still due each week in order to hold your child's position in my care.

I have a statement similar to this in my policy book because I used to have several unvaccinated dcks.
in spite of that the one time I had to invoke that policy the parents got mad and terminated.
too bad, so sad! Not risking my babies or my business.

[mom2many]

I used to be more excepting of non vaccinated kids attending my daycare. I've only had two families in 30 years. One was a special Ed teacher and had strong beliefs of vaccinations being linked to autism and the other dcm had a child diagnosed at 15 mths on the autism spectrum and stopped his shots. They both signed the waivers, but no longer attend here.

However, now with so many of these diseases returning, I will no longer be accepting families who do not vaccinate!