Am I Wrong Here

[Cozy_Kids_Childcare]

Parents can't give you permission to do the wrong thing. If you have a client that requires a dangerous practice you have to walk away.

Not only is it dangerous but the amount of one to one supervision to facilitate free range of an infant is very costly. I couldn't afford to keep her safe.

I don't let them have free range until they can walk unless all kids are the same age group. My nephew is the size of an average 3/4 year old not a 22- month old. He is clumsy and is a tad hyper. I thought I was following regulation per my state to not allow floor play with infant in a room where older children are walking/running and could cause an accident. I don't use swings or bouncy seats. She disn't like the jumper. Different strokes for different people I guess.

[permanentvacation]

I think you will be happier with the family not in your daycare. It really does sound like it was not a good fit.

Taking the one child to the bus stop sounds like it was a pain in the rear for you. Having to take all the little ones out for one child to go to the bus stop would be something that I would not be willing to do. It's just too much for me to go through for one child.

However, I do agree with the mother as far as letting the baby have free roam at least some times during the day. When I have mobile little babies, I do just like the mother suggested. I will sit my older ones at the table to color or with small manipulates to give the baby floor time. I do this a couple of times throughout the day. Basically, the older ones and the babies take turns using the main floor space.

[KiddieCahoots]

BTDT............

If these dcp's could overlook the safety for the want, then it's better they leave.

What would've been the next demand?

[nannyde]

I don't let them have free range until they can walk unless all kids are the same age group. My nephew is the size of an average 3/4 year old not a 22- month old. He is clumsy and is a tad hyper. I thought I was following regulation per my state to not allow floor play with infant in a room where older children are walking/running and could cause an accident. I don't use swings or bouncy seats. She disn't like the jumper. Different strokes for different people I guess.

One of the most common excuses abusive providers use when trying to explain an injury to an infant is that an older kid fell on the baby. If that really happened you would be under great suspicion for being the perpetrator.

[Annalee]

I understand your reasoning, but this would not fly in my state....we have to have so much square feet per child and babies do not get to be placed in confined spaces (pnp, exersaucers, swings) but for small amounts of time throughout the day....my babies get lots of tummy time and floor play....I just designate an area with materials and once they start scooting/crawling the babies go wherever they choose....I have an open 24 x 32 room with play centers set up. We talk alot about the presence of babies and how important it is to be aware of others play spaces....they begin learning this at a young age and role model to each other. This is for licensing, not to mention QRIS!!!!

[Heidi]

I understand your reasoning, but this would not fly in my state....we have to have so much square feet per child and babies do not get to be placed in confined spaces (pnp, exersaucers, swings) but for small amounts of time throughout the day....my babies get lots of tummy time and floor play....I just designate an area with materials and once they start scooting/crawling the babies go wherever they choose....I have an open 24 x 32 room with play centers set up. We talk alot about the presence of babies and how important it is to be aware of others play spaces....they begin learning this at a young age and role model to each other. This is for licensing, not to mention QRIS!!!!

As long as that area is at least 35 sq feet, it meets state regs here. In fact, I once had an observer (my instructor) suggest that my non-mobile SEVEN WEEK old needed at least 35 sq. ft at all times. Yeah...OK...

[Annalee]

As long as that area is at least 35 sq feet, it meets state regs here. In fact, I once had an observer (my instructor) suggest that my non-mobile SEVEN WEEK old needed at least 35 sq. ft at all times. Yeah...OK...

That is what it is here, too....but, being a parent myself, I would won't my baby to be included, allowed to interact, and able to enhance their gross motor skills so the floor is the place to learn that....My clients always compliment me on how my babies go to sleep at nap by themselves....and I feel the reason is I DO NOT put them in their beds EXCEPT to sleep....so that becomes a natural thing....and many are too surprised what an infant will pick up on while watching older kids do preschool/exercise/sing/etc...... infants can learn and need to be included while also being allowed their own free play in their own way with no confinement.

[Blackcat31]

That is what it is here, too....but, being a parent myself, I would won't my baby to be included, allowed to interact, and able to enhance their gross motor skills so the floor is the place to learn that....My clients always compliment me on how my babies go to sleep at nap by themselves....and I feel the reason is I DO NOT put them in their beds EXCEPT to sleep....so that becomes a natural thing....and many are too surprised what an infant will pick up on while watching older kids do preschool/exercise/sing/etc...... infants can learn and need to be included while also being allowed their own free play in their own way with no confinement.

But OP already said her state regulations require non walkers to be separated from walkers.

She is doing what she is required to do.

I separate my non-walkers too. They have an entire room to themselves but they are still separated from the walkers.
...and my QRIS is perfectly fine with that.

[Annalee]

But OP already said her state regulations require non walkers to be separated from walkers.

She is doing what she is required to do.

I separate my non-walkers too. They have an entire room to themselves but they are still separated from the walkers.
...and my QRIS is perfectly fine with that.

Yep, I understand that. I was stating my FCC rules won't allow that unless we meet all QRIS materials needed in each room if we separate so no FCC that I know of separates here because no one has the room/space to meet those FCCERS-R guidelines twice....so we keep them all together...yes, even infants are governed to the degree of our preschoolers with certain categories....if the infants ore non-mobile we have to bring these materials to the child during assessment day?????? Crazy here!!!!!

[LysesKids]

I understand your reasoning, but this would not fly in my state....we have to have so much square feet per child and babies do not get to be placed in confined spaces (pnp, exersaucers, swings) but for small amounts of time throughout the day....my babies get lots of tummy time and floor play....I just designate an area with materials and once they start scooting/crawling the babies go wherever they choose....I have an open 24 x 32 room with play centers set up. We talk alot about the presence of babies and how important it is to be aware of others play spaces....they begin learning this at a young age and role model to each other. This is for licensing, not to mention QRIS!!!!

See, I understand because I live I the same state, AND my parents love that I "free range" - of course I only have the littles so it makes a difference. Except for the hallway leading to my bedroom, babies/toddlers have full roam of the house.... it's why I designated the other bedroom for sleeping & play (my kids are grown & moved out). Heck, once the babies can sit up at 6-7 months, they start sitting at the table with us for meals (no highchairs, just my special minui handisitt w/harness). My oldest , at 21 months, pulls her nap mat (3") out when she gets tired.

[Annalee]

See, I understand because I live I the same state, AND my parents love that I "free range" - of course I only have the littles so it makes a difference. Except for the hallway leading to my bedroom, babies/toddlers have full roam of the house.... it's why I designated the other bedroom for sleeping & play (my kids are grown & moved out). Heck, once the babies can sit up at 6-7 months, they start sitting at the table with us for meals (no highchairs, just my special minui handisitt w/harness). My oldest , at 21 months, pulls her nap mat (3") out when she gets tired.

[Blackcat31]

Yep, I understand that. I was stating my FCC rules won't allow that unless we meet all QRIS materials needed in each room if we separate so no FCC that I know of separates here because no one has the room/space to meet those FCCERS-R guidelines twice....so we keep them all together...yes, even infants are governed to the degree of our preschoolers with certain categories....if the infants ore non-mobile we have to bring these materials to the child during assessment day?????? Crazy here!!!!!

I think you deserve an award for dealing with THE craziest QRIS rules I have ever come across.

I admire you for simply staying in business.

[Annalee]

I think you deserve an award for dealing with THE craziest QRIS rules I have ever come across.

I admire you for simply staying in business.

Like I said, I have rolled with it, but no way would I encourage anyone to begin a child care here! :confused:

[Kabob]

But OP already said her state regulations require non walkers to be separated from walkers.

She is doing what she is required to do.

I separate my non-walkers too. They have an entire room to themselves but they are still separated from the walkers.
...and my QRIS is perfectly fine with that.

So...just curious as I am dealing with this issue myself...do your infants stay in a separate room with a gate or are they just gated off from the rest of the room? My dd is crawling so I had to rearrange my furniture to keep her away from the other kids and still keep her within my sight.

Kudos to OP for keeping baby separate from the older kiddos...young children often don't pay attention and so infants can get hurt pretty quickly...

[Play Care]

I am not the OP, but I have a large play yard for baby. It's not a PNP and baby is on the floor when he's in it.