Furious - Dose and Drop. Help!

[nannyde]

I have had children on a cough med for asthma. It has albuterol in it. Not a contagious cough. But I am also one that is comfortable caring for children with asthma.

Albuterol isn't cough medicine. It's a bronchodilator.

I can't remember the last time I had a kid given a cough medicine. Phenergan with Codeine used to be commonly prescribed when the OTC meds were taken off the market.

[MOM OF 4 LOGGED OUT]

LOL. You actually think that a job that only allows for 6 sick days a year actually pays enough to hire a nanny? In what world are you living?

And for the record, I was actually commenting on the attitudes here, not my own care situation. As long as the kid is cleared to return then he can come back. I'll let her know that he's on X, Y, or Z meds, but unless he's going to spread his germs then he gets to stay.

That is really not the DCP's problem. YOU guys need to find jobs that can support your having children. Placing your problems on everyone else is not acceptable.
Sorry, but sometimes, people just expect way too much out of people and need to look to THEMSELVES to find better circumstances FOR themselves.

DCP's should not have to put up with a dose and dash parent. DCP's should not really have to administer abx to a child, that is a PARENT'S JOB. SCHOOLS do not do that. They administer EMERGENCY meds and/or life-sustaining meds ONLY (inhalers, diphenhydramine, epi etc). All others (OTC, abx, topical ointments) are a parent's responsibility to figure out.

Being SICK with a contagious/communicable disease is MUCH different than having a chronic illness such as asthma, and frankly, Parent, you should be embarrassed that you're trying to COMPARE it. NO ONE WANTS TO SHARE the "love" of strep throat or bronchitis!!!

[Leigh]

Your employer may require a doc note for "clearance" but most providers don't ask for nor accept a Doc opinion on readmission into care. We only want the diagnosis, whether or not the doc feels the child is contagious, and the treatment given to the child.

We don't care if your doc believes the child can return. You should let your boss know that the Doc doesn't make the decision. The daycare does.

Now if your daycare allows your doc to make the decision then it's all good.

I agree if a child isn't contagious, is on medication that doesn't affect his ability to participate and doesn't require ANY additional care, then the provider should allow readmittance.

Side note, we don't care about how many paid days off you have or if your kids illness will affect your job. We can't. We do what is best for the group, ourselves, and our kids TODAY. If you have a kid and can't take time off when he is sick, you have a problem. YOU have a problem. If you need ill kid care, it has NOTHING to do with well child care. You may want to look for a daycare that DOES ill child care. It's going to be a tough thing to find. The liability is more than your kids tuition.

I couldn't even count the times that I have heard from a doctor that "it's nothing" and have it turn into something big. Last time it happened, my son's doc said that he was fine and he was hospitalized that evening (about 7 hours after the doc said there was nothing wrong with him). doctors are usually providing their best guess.

[Leigh]

LOL. You actually think that a job that only allows for 6 sick days a year actually pays enough to hire a nanny? In what world are you living?

And for the record, I was actually commenting on the attitudes here, not my own care situation. As long as the kid is cleared to return then he can come back. I'll let her know that he's on X, Y, or Z meds, but unless he's going to spread his germs then he gets to stay.

I think it's HILARIOUS that you think that you have the right to make the decision that "he gets to stay"! :::: I think that decision lies with the business owner usually, doesn't it?

[Josiegirl]

I don't mean to sound snarky or rude to you... I am just making a point that we all have responsibilities and sometimes they are hard to manage but you do what your have to do when you are a parent. This too will pass and your child wont be little forever.

This is it, in a nutshell. IMO once you have a child that child should be your #1 priority. All else takes 2nd place. I know...you have to work to pay bills. Most of us do! We find a way to make it work for us. That's probably why most of us here do childcare.
It wasn't all easy being a child care while my 3 kids were little. Let's see, my kids caught chicken pox, colds, stomach bugs, lice, scabies, 1 of my dds got bronchiolitis at age 18 months. You ever have your 18 month old toddler stabbed with needles trying to find a vein because a dcparent didn't think bringing their sick child to dc was harmful? And this dcp was a doctor! Not only that, while I was in the ER with dd, this stupid doctor dcp came in to ask me if I was going back home so she could bring her dd back. Did you ever have to give your 9 month baby some kind of crap to get rid of scabies because dcps brought it into your home?? I turned my former dcm away when she brought her dd in and said 'I think she has pink-eye'. I looked at her and said why is she here?
While I wouldn't have a problem taking a dck who was taking prescription meds. for a cough, as long as he'd been on them a couple days and was showing improvement( you can tell so much by how a child acts!) I am much more careful now about what I will or will not tolerate as far as sickness goes.
As was mentioned there is a group to consider. And that groups' siblings, parents, grand-parents, and on and on.
Honestly, I don't understand why people that are that sick don't stay home more often instead of going and infecting everyone else. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. And I understand some employers are not very compassionate.

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This is it, in a nutshell. IMO once you have a child that child should be your #1 priority. All else takes 2nd place. I know...you have to work to pay bills. Most of us do! We find a way to make it work for us. That's probably why most of us here do childcare.
It wasn't all easy being a child care while my 3 kids were little. Let's see, my kids caught chicken pox, colds, stomach bugs, lice, scabies, 1 of my dds got bronchiolitis at age 18 months. You ever have your 18 month old toddler stabbed with needles trying to find a vein because a dcparent didn't think bringing their sick child to dc was harmful? And this dcp was a doctor! Not only that, while I was in the ER with dd, this stupid doctor dcp came in to ask me if I was going back home so she could bring her dd back. Did you ever have to give your 9 month baby some kind of crap to get rid of scabies because dcps brought it into your home?? I turned my former dcm away when she brought her dd in and said 'I think she has pink-eye'. I looked at her and said why is she here?
While I wouldn't have a problem taking a dck who was taking prescription meds. for a cough, as long as he'd been on them a couple days and was showing improvement( you can tell so much by how a child acts!) I am much more careful now about what I will or will not tolerate as far as sickness goes.
As was mentioned there is a group to consider. And that groups' siblings, parents, grand-parents, and on and on.
Honestly, I don't understand why people that are that sick don't stay home more often instead of going and infecting everyone else. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. And I understand some employers are not very compassionate.

Exactly! When my child gets sick because dcps think its ok to bring their sick child to daycare making all kinds of excuses, I get so upset. My ds has been sick so many times that he had to take antibiotics, borderline pneumonia, puking at night, all because of dcps being selfish. My husband and I work it out so he can stay home with our ds when he is sick. I don't and can't understand why others can't do the same. It's scary having your child so sick.

Now I am very strict with my illness policy and I don't care what you or your doctor said it is. As long as your child is coughing uncontrollably nonstop, constant runny yellow/green mucous, etc your child needs to stay home. And if you want to play the clueless dcp bringing your child back and still has problems you bet I am calling you for pick up. If you are not happy with my illness policy, you are welcome to find a different daycare. My family's health and wellbeing is much more important than your money!

[Mom of 4 logged out]

Exactly! When my child gets sick because dcps think its ok to bring their sick child to daycare making all kinds of excuses, I get so upset. My ds has been sick so many times that he had to take antibiotics, borderline pneumonia, puking at night, all because of dcps being selfish. My husband and I work it out so he can stay home with our ds when he is sick. I don't and can't understand why others can't do the same. It's scary having your child so sick.

Now I am very strict with my illness policy and I don't care what you or your doctor said it is. As long as your child is coughing uncontrollably nonstop, constant runny yellow/green mucous, etc your child needs to stay home. And if you want to play the clueless dcp bringing your child back and still has problems you bet I am calling you for pick up. If you are not happy with my illness policy, you are welcome to find a different daycare. My family's health and wellbeing is much more important than your money!

Agreed.

And as a now-DC PARENT of children that goes to daycare so I can work FT and go to school FT, I don't like when parents dose and dash and then MY kid gets their child's illness. The parents lack of respect and lying affects more than just the provider, too. It affects ALL of us other families. I would NEVER do that to my provider! I don't want HER getting sick or her little babies or her own kids. And when parents dose and dash, and my kid gets sick, they're sure not thinking about MY sick time (or lack thereof) or my school being missed. THANK GOD I have older kids to which for a few hours, the oldest can babysit, but if I didn't, I wouldn't be able to work or go to school because of a few lying parents.

[Josiegirl]

Another aspect I had never thought about but the issue came up many years ago when it seemed every kid got chicken pox.
I learned one of my dcks had broken out with chicken pox and as a courtesy to the dcps, I called each one to alert them and ask them if they minded their child being exposed. Believe it not, back then a common attitude was 'oh let's get this over with; they're gonna get it anyways'.
But when I called a PT dcm to let her know, she said she could not let her own child be exposed because on her off days she cared for a child with leukemia.

So parents, it's not because we as providers are looking to earn free money while your kid isn't attending. It's not because we're looking to make your life difficult. It's not because we have control issues or using our business for power play. It's because you never know how this can trickle down and affect everybody else.

Besides, and I don't know if this was mentioned or not, BUT IMO child care is about the child. And where do you think a sick child wants to be when they're sick?? Surrounded by 5 or more other kids, crying infants, forced to join in activities, chaos, noise, hustle and bustle of daycare? NO. They want to be home, taken care of, indulged, in a quiet place with the people they love the best.

[SignMeUp]

Another aspect I had never thought about but the issue came up many years ago when it seemed every kid got chicken pox.
I learned one of my dcks had broken out with chicken pox and as a courtesy to the dcps, I called each one to alert them and ask them if they minded their child being exposed. Believe it not, back then a common attitude was 'oh let's get this over with; they're gonna get it anyways'.
But when I called a PT dcm to let her know, she said she could not let her own child be exposed because on her off days she cared for a child with leukemia.

So parents, it's not because we as providers are looking to earn free money while your kid isn't attending. It's not because we're looking to make your life difficult. It's not because we have control issues or using our business for power play. It's because you never know how this can trickle down and affect everybody else.

Besides, and I don't know if this was mentioned or not, BUT IMO child care is about the child. And where do you think a sick child wants to be when they're sick?? Surrounded by 5 or more other kids, crying infants, forced to join in activities, chaos, noise, hustle and bustle of daycare? NO. They want to be home, taken care of, indulged, in a quiet place with the people they love the best.

[CraftyMom]

Another aspect I had never thought about but the issue came up many years ago when it seemed every kid got chicken pox.
I learned one of my dcks had broken out with chicken pox and as a courtesy to the dcps, I called each one to alert them and ask them if they minded their child being exposed. Believe it not, back then a common attitude was 'oh let's get this over with; they're gonna get it anyways'.
But when I called a PT dcm to let her know, she said she could not let her own child be exposed because on her off days she cared for a child with leukemia.

So parents, it's not because we as providers are looking to earn free money while your kid isn't attending. It's not because we're looking to make your life difficult. It's not because we have control issues or using our business for power play. It's because you never know how this can trickle down and affect everybody else.

Besides, and I don't know if this was mentioned or not, BUT IMO child care is about the child. And where do you think a sick child wants to be when they're sick?? Surrounded by 5 or more other kids, crying infants, forced to join in activities, chaos, noise, hustle and bustle of daycare? NO. They want to be home, taken care of, indulged, in a quiet place with the people they love the best.

Yes, there are MANY aspects that we as providers are thinking about, whereas parents are just concerned with missing a day of work and think we are being nit picky...soooo not the case!