It Gets Worse, Ladies

[Hunni Bee]

This is a followup to article I posted last week about the daycare fire.

Apparently the child was still strapped in his car seat.

http://m.nbc12.com/nbc12/db_352352/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=i3htCZHl

[nannyde]

Holy crap. This was a veteran provider too.

[Josiegirl]

Why oh why
I don't get it. I can understand she was distraught and might not have been able to say I've got 7 or 8 or whatever kids in care. BUT to know WHO you've got in your care at every moment is a whole other story. Those 20 minutes(I think) when he could have been rescued might have made the whole difference if the officials knew exactly where to look.
And to leave him in his carseat. Why was it over turned, had there been explosions or something? That poor poor child. I cannot imagine what he went through and what the parents are going through.

[snbauser]

I am so sad for that child and his family. But I am extremely angry at that "provider"! To not know how many kids are in your care at any given time is inexcusable. To not know that there is a child still strapped in their car seat, is horrible. Those firefighters may have been able to save that child's life if they were told quickly that there was a child in there, and where that child was. And she didn't have working smoke detectors. Strike 3. I hope they throw the book at her.

[lovemykidstoo]

That is a horrific story. I read the report too from the firefighters that there was a link to. I cannot even imagine the poor firefighters that turned that carseat over and discovered that child what they are going through also. It probably overturned because he was fighting for his life. Poor baby.

[NightOwl]

The first thing that comes to mind with the overturned seat is that the baby struggled hard to free himself. This just makes me sick. And why was he in an upstairs bedroom strapped into a car seat?? This woman has been doing this plenty long enough to know about positional asphyxiation.

[Cradle2crayons]

I am so sad for that child and his family. But I am extremely angry at that "provider"! To not know how many kids are in your care at any given time is inexcusable. To not know that there is a child still strapped in their car seat, is horrible. Those firefighters may have been able to save that child's life if they were told quickly that there was a child in there, and where that child was. And she didn't have working smoke detectors. Strike 3. I hope they throw the book at her.

I'm still trying to figure out why a 1 year old was buckled in a car seat? I mean those handled infant seats aren't for kids over a certain weight/age etc. why would a parent drop off a one year old in a huge car seat buckled up.

I'm very confused also why Dhs isn't pursuing this.

[TheGoodLife]

I'm still trying to figure out why a 1 year old was buckled in a car seat? I mean those handled infant seats aren't for kids over a certain weight/age etc. why would a parent drop off a one year old in a huge car seat buckled up.

I'm very confused also why Dhs isn't pursuing this.

Exactly what I was thinking. So unbelievably sad, and I can't believe DHS isn't doing anything in the case.

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

I'm still trying to figure out why a 1 year old was buckled in a car seat? I mean those handled infant seats aren't for kids over a certain weight/age etc. why would a parent drop off a one year old in a huge car seat buckled up.

I'm very confused also why Dhs isn't pursuing this.

My 14-month-old is still a good 6" shorter than the outside shell and 6 pounds lighter than the weight limit with her bucket seat so we still use it. Just depends on the kiddo.

So soooo sad about that little one.

[sahm1225]

I'm still trying to figure out why a 1 year old was buckled in a car seat? I mean those handled infant seats aren't for kids over a certain weight/age etc. why would a parent drop off a one year old in a huge car seat buckled up.

I'm very confused also why Dhs isn't pursuing this.

I think the height/weight limits have been raised on some car seats because I currently have 2 just turned 1 year olds that are still using their infant car seats. My own dd still hasn't hit the weight/height limit on her infant car seat and she's 2 (we no longer use the infant car seat and when we did, we didn't take it out of the car.)

This is just a sad news story. The child could've possibly been saved if the firefighters got to him in time. The article says she was surprised when the fire department told her he was taken to the hospital. That just makes it even stranger.
I hope DHS is investigating this. Some parts of this are just not making any sense

[nannyde]

My guess is she didn't have enough pack n plays or
She didn't want him standing up screaming or
He could get out of the pnp she has
And
The car seat was most likey hers.

They found the car seat tipped over. I wonder how that happened.

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[Cat Herder]

My guess is she didn't have enough pack n plays or
She didn't want him standing up screaming or
He could get out of the pnp she has
And
The car seat was most likey hers.

They found the car seat tipped over. I wonder how that happened.

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I don't.

This needs to be a criminal case.

Wait for it......

Detector battery missing, no extinguisher, 8 kids, operating illegally, told 911 that all kids were out prior to fire dept arrival, a firefighter was also burned clearing the second floor.... The fire report says it all.

[taylorw1210]

The little guy looks like he would've still fit in an infant car seat. Perhaps he was sleeping when he arrived and she just kept him in it? Or she often sleeps in him it? Neither are ok by any means.

That poor little boy.

[nannyde]

I don't.

This needs to be a criminal case.

Wait for it......

Detector battery missing, no extinguisher, 8 kids, operating illegally, told 911 that all kids were out prior to fire dept arrival.... The fire report says it all.

You think she injured him before the fire?

At first I thought maybe he was dead before the fire but it looks like he was alive when they pulled him out and died at the hospital. I didn't think about him being injured??? Is that what you mean?

[Cat Herder]

You think she injured him before the fire?

At first I thought maybe he was dead before the fire but it looks like he was alive when they pulled him out and died at the hospital. I didn't think about him being injured??? Is that what you mean?

I did not think that....they would have found that. My bet is he could climb out of a PNP, was difficult to transition to a mat and cried a lot. It was right after lunch time. Easier to strap him in and leave him out of earshot (same thought as you).

I was referring to the car seat being below the level of smoke. Which increases the likelihood that he was awake for most of it. It is horrific. She KNEW better and made the CHOICE. 25 minutes he was strapped in there, after everyone else was out. 25 minutes.