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  • MissAnn
    Preschool Teacher
    • Jan 2011
    • 2213

    Teachers Kids Contract

    I like the idea of charging more during the school year for teachers kids. My usual fee is $115/week. I take a one week unpaid vacation during the summer and a paid vacation at Christmas. I've always charged 1/2 price for summers and they can bring their kids 2 times a week.

    I thought I would charge $125/week for teachers during the school year. They would have to still pay for my vacation, school breaks, holidays and school closings.

    I would like to give them the option to pay year round or just the school year.

    Here's my question.....

    If parent #1 chose to pay year round but in January decided to pull their child out....they would give their two weeks notice and be done.

    If parent #2 chose to pay only for the school year at the higher rate and decided to pull their child out in January....Wont' they want some money back because they are paying a higher rate to cover summer?

    Or is it better for ME to choose one method or the other?
  • Silly Songs
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 705

    #2
    I don't understand teachers paying more . Is it because they aren't there over breaks ? I was under the impression that many home providers charged per week . That to me would me if the dentist pays 200 a week, the teacher should also pay 200 a week. Does it give the teacher certain advantages ? 200 X 52 for both of them . Or am I missing something ?

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    • hope
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 1513

      #3
      So the higher rate is to cover the loss of pay in the summer? I think it is easier to have only one teacher rate. I charge teachers less and they still pay for my vacation and holidays and I require them to keep their kids home on days they don't work paid to me. But that's me. Charge what you like but keep it one rate and if they chose to take summer off you can either charge a flat rate or deposit to hold the spot.

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      • MissAnn
        Preschool Teacher
        • Jan 2011
        • 2213

        #4
        Originally posted by Silly Songs
        I don't understand teachers paying more . Is it because they aren't there over breaks ? I was under the impression that many home providers charged per week . That to me would me if the dentist pays 200 a week, the teacher should also pay 200 a week. Does it give the teacher certain advantages ? 200 X 52 for both of them . Or am I missing something ?
        Some teachers do not like to pay for summer but I require 50% to keep their spot. Their child can attend 2 days per week. The higher rate during the school year gives them the choice to not have to pay during the summer. It's been discussed in this forum and many contract with teachers this way.

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        • MissAnn
          Preschool Teacher
          • Jan 2011
          • 2213

          #5
          Originally posted by hope
          So the higher rate is to cover the loss of pay in the summer? I think it is easier to have only one teacher rate. I charge teachers less and they still pay for my vacation and holidays and I require them to keep their kids home on days they don't work paid to me. But that's me. Charge what you like but keep it one rate and if they chose to take summer off you can either charge a flat rate or deposit to hold the spot.
          Why charge teachers less?

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          • Rachel
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 605

            #6
            We have an August vacation (2.5 weeks paid) and the way it is covered is this: if a child pulls mid year they need to pay 1.5 days for every month (I think). So you could do something like that where you write teh contract from September through August at X per week and anyone who pulls early owes your 1 week paid + x per month as vacation you earned. I think though I woudl do the same for all teachers. It seems too confusing otherwise.

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            • hope
              Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 1513

              #7
              Originally posted by MissAnn
              Why charge teachers less?
              I charge less bc they pick up earlier in the day and I require them to keep their kids home on days the schools are closed and I still get paid for those days. It is a great incentive to enroll teachers and have a shorter work day.

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              • TheGoodLife
                Home Daycare Provider
                • Feb 2012
                • 1372

                #8
                Originally posted by hope
                I charge less bc they pick up earlier in the day and I require them to keep their kids home on days the schools are closed and I still get paid for those days. It is a great incentive to enroll teachers and have a shorter work day.
                Do you have them agree to a specific PU time? As a former teacher, I might be "off" work by 4:10, but I'd often have to stay late to keep working or for meetings. Do you have them guarantee earlier PU times, or are most of them just good at it on their own?

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                • hope
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1513

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheGoodLife
                  Do you have them agree to a specific PU time? As a former teacher, I might be "off" work by 4:10, but I'd often have to stay late to keep working or for meetings. Do you have them guarantee earlier PU times, or are most of them just good at it on their own?
                  They have a 3:30 pick up time. If they have a meeting that keeps them later (usually happens once a month) they need to ask a month in advance and I have the option to say no, that I can not watch later. If I do I do not charge bc it's usually only a half hour. Once I started taking teachers I changed my hours. Now I only have one part time child that is here past 3:30.

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                  • Annalee
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 5864

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MissAnn
                    I like the idea of charging more during the school year for teachers kids. My usual fee is $115/week. I take a one week unpaid vacation during the summer and a paid vacation at Christmas. I've always charged 1/2 price for summers and they can bring their kids 2 times a week.

                    I thought I would charge $125/week for teachers during the school year. They would have to still pay for my vacation, school breaks, holidays and school closings.

                    I would like to give them the option to pay year round or just the school year.

                    Here's my question.....

                    If parent #1 chose to pay year round but in January decided to pull their child out....they would give their two weeks notice and be done.

                    If parent #2 chose to pay only for the school year at the higher rate and decided to pull their child out in January....Wont' they want some money back because they are paying a higher rate to cover summer?

                    Or is it better for ME to choose one method or the other?
                    My teachers pay 52 weeks a year like everyone else....They are allowed to come in the summer but they have to let me know each week which days they will attend so I can keep tabs on my ratio for the day....

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                    • Crazy8
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2769

                      #11
                      Originally posted by hope
                      They have a 3:30 pick up time. If they have a meeting that keeps them later (usually happens once a month) they need to ask a month in advance and I have the option to say no, that I can not watch later. If I do I do not charge bc it's usually only a half hour. Once I started taking teachers I changed my hours. Now I only have one part time child that is here past 3:30.
                      Wish that was the case here, but many schools here don't get out till 3:30 and if teachers work a little further away I still have 4:30-5pm pick ups for my teachers - and yes, they are coming straight from work.

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                      • MissAnn
                        Preschool Teacher
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2213

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Crazy8
                        Wish that was the case here, but many schools here don't get out till 3:30 and if teachers work a little further away I still have 4:30-5pm pick ups for my teachers - and yes, they are coming straight from work.
                        Same here

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                        • KSDC
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 382

                          #13
                          I charge the same weekly rate during the school year.
                          A smaller holding fee for the summer.
                          In exchange for not charging full rate all year, I expect them to not bring their children on any school vacation days. (In-Service days are OK. If the teachers don't go to school, the kids don't come here.)

                          This is all just a verbal agreement. I really need to put it into a contract page. Anyone have a teacher contract that you can share with us? Blackcat?

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Crazy8
                            Wish that was the case here, but many schools here don't get out till 3:30 and if teachers work a little further away I still have 4:30-5pm pick ups for my teachers - and yes, they are coming straight from work.
                            Same here. Also most "no school" days here are just no student days but staff still has work to do.

                            Also in my experience, most my teacher families like to use those no staff days as "me days" and still bring their children so there is no down time for me or a quieter day simply because a parent is a teacher.

                            I gave up trying to accommodate parents that work seasonally. I live in an area where we have lots of loggers and construction and road workers that work only through the Spring-Fall months and are off for winters and teachers working Fall-Spring with winters off...

                            Now I just charge per space and if a parent wants to risk losing their space by pulling their child during their off months/down time, that is up to them.

                            I do NOT work a seasonal job so I charge year round.

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                            • MissAnn
                              Preschool Teacher
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2213

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blackcat31
                              Same here. Also most "no school" days here are just no student days but staff still has work to do.

                              Also in my experience, most my teacher families like to use those no staff days as "me days" and still bring their children so there is no down time for me or a quieter day simply because a parent is a teacher.

                              I gave up trying to accommodate parents that work seasonally. I live in an area where we have lots of loggers and construction and road workers that work only through the Spring-Fall months and are off for winters and teachers working Fall-Spring with winters off...

                              Now I just charge per space and if a parent wants to risk losing their space by pulling their child during their off months/down time, that is up to them.

                              I do NOT work a seasonal job so I charge year round.
                              I know I'm the one who brought it up.....and yes, im questioning myself. Why do we feel the need to accommodate teachers? I have a dad who will not work most of winter but has never asked for special. I don't feel we owe teachers anything different. I don't feel teachers are underpaid any more than other professions. BUT, there is the competition....I tend to get a lot of teachers kids. I have to compete with two programs that totally cater to teachers.....they don't pay for any day their child is not there including all of summer. This is why I'm trying to think of an alternate teachers contract that appeals to them and doesn't cheat my pay.

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