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    OT Safety Question

    I was going to post this in the other section for off topic but can't seem to find it.

    I am a girl scout leader (Daycare owner too who posts on here) and have a question that I figured you ladies might be able to help me with since its really up your alley. I have a mom in my troop who is known to be a drug user. Rehab. Jail. Theft. The works. Gmom and aunt also have dual custody of the child along with mom so I deal with the whole family. Dad is around but the supplier so....just outta jail and not the one to contact. Mom is SUPPOSED to be clean right now.

    Last Tue mom clearly was lying about not being able to come right away to our scout meeting. Said she had a dr appointment 15 min prior to the meeting that just came up and would be late. She does not have a car and when she gets it, we get these messages (Im going to be late= not showing and then has the child lie to the Gmom about being at scouts. I have to message the gmom about events so the gmom knows about them and ensures the child comes. Only mom now has found a way around that by saying she is taking the child to the events to the gmom but doesn't show and tells me things like this) And of course I get the message 30min later that she isn't likely going to make it cause the dr is taking so long. I explained we had a quest speaker in and it was a badge and she would not be earning it. Five min later she shows and says the dr rescheduled. My coleader and I figure it was another game and she was back to lying again.

    Friday mom was at another function. She left for a bit and disappeared outside. About 15 min. When she came back in she seemed ok so I just figured a smoke or something. But about 15 min after she came back she seemed out of it. "Tired". Falling asleep with her head on her hand when I am talking with her. Kept having to 'wake up' when I would say I was speaking with her. Just got a bad vibe. Now its possible that she was tired. Woman is on facebook all hours of the night. But it was odd she went from fine to like that after going outside. My coleader and I were talking after and she mentioned mom was staggering when she left. I didn't see that. But we started comparing our experiences.

    I think mom is using again/still.

    So......I know about mandatory reporting. I know about allowing a child to leave with an unsafe driver. But in this case I am not 100%. Its not like I smelled liquor on her. Or she stunk of pot. KWIM? I have no proof. My husband says I cannot let the child go. But how do I know when it comes to drug use on when the mom really is unsafe? Honestly and sadly I bet I could simply ask the child. She knows everything! We could sit and talk with the gmom which my coleader and I discussed too.

    Am I opening Pandoras box without proof? How would you suggest I handle this?
  • Unregistered

    #2
    Ok...duh moment.....if I'm not logged in I guess I wouldn't find the other off topic section! LOL! Ok....before its pointed out my lightbulb just went on!

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    • hope
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 1513

      #3
      As a mandated reporter you don't need 100 percent proof. You just need to suspect. And you do suspect so you should report. It is hard with drug users because after many many years of use their bodies and mind have taken a wear and it can be hard to tell the difference between currently using or just worn out. But do you want to take that chance when you suspect she is high and you let the little girl leave with her?

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      • craftymissbeth
        Legally Unlicensed
        • May 2012
        • 2385

        #4
        The Girl Scout part of it I would just let go. That's between their family members to decide if they're going to attend or not.

        As far as suspected drug use, I would report it and insist on anonymity.

        Are Girl Scout leaders mandated reporters? From the way I understand it, you're only a mandated reporter for your dcks... not all of society. Not saying that you shouldn't report something if you suspect abuse or neglect... I just think a lot of providers assume were mandated reporters for everyone we come in contact with.

        Maybe I'm wrong, though.

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        • _Dana_
          New Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 87

          #5
          In my State, Nebraska, any person who suspects child abuse or neglect is required to report it. It doesn't matter what your profession is. https://www.childwelfare.gov/systemw...utes/manda.pdf


          I would report your suspicions.

          (Edited to fix my spelling error)
          Last edited by _Dana_; 09-29-2014, 10:17 AM. Reason: spelling typo

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          • Thriftylady
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 5884

            #6
            Mom doesn't have to be using to be a danger. If she was that tired it was also risky to be driving with her daughter no matter the cause. I would report it. They won't be able to prove she was using just then either, however they can drug test her and will know if she is using.

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            • Cynthia
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 58

              #7
              I have been a mandated reporter for the last 30 years. In California you report even if it has nothing to do with your job. You can be at a store or parking lot you must report. It's always better to report then not. I always go with my gut filling.

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              • Silly Songs
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 705

                #8
                There should be a local Girl Scout Council you can address this with. Usually it's regional . As a leader, you are a mandated reporter. You probably belong to the Girl Scouts of Greater Manhattan , or of Silicon Valley. ( example ) . Good Luck

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