Do you exclude kids who won't stay awake?

[taylorw1210]

In my illness policy it states that I'll exclude if children cannot participate in normal daily activities.

Do you exclude children who arrive extra sleepy and are unable to stay away for the morning routine?

[craftymissbeth]

I don't do an academic curriculum, so I usually just put them down for a quick morning nap. BUT I have one dcg who won't take an afternoon nap if she gets one in the morning.

So if putting them down for a morning nap will make it so they don't sleep in the afternoon or if a morning nap just won't work for your program then yes, I would send them home.

[Play Care]

What did the parent say at drop off about the childs night? Are they getting over an illness? I've never had that happen with kids 1+, and infants would just be napped.

*if it was a one time thing, the family, was a good family, I Knew the child wasn't sick, I might keep the child and see how it went

*if this was par for the course, the family was a pain, the child may be coming down with an illness (even with no concrete signs) I'd call for pick up.

But if I did call, I'd say the child wasn't feeling well and needed to be picked up. I think this might be one of those reasons that make sense to us, but a parent may try to argue.

[KiddieCahoots]

I have that policy in my hb too.
But honestly it depends on how many children are in my care at the time.
When my group is small, then I let them sleep all they want, cause more one on one occurs anyway.
When my numbers are full then it can be a problem, just because the afternoon nap is more focused on, and that rest time works best for everyone here as a group. And that time is when I start working more with the parents to try and get the bedtime earlier, documenting it, building my way up to excluding the child if things don't change.

[taylorw1210]

DCD told me the girl was up frequently through the night. She was brought to me sleeping at 7:45am. I laid her down, she slept solid through until I tried to wake her at 9am. She wouldn't wake despite my trying many, many times.

I took her temp and it's normal.

I am not really wanting this little girl to continue sleeping because then we'll end up with a struggle at nap time.

[Angelsj]

DCD told me the girl was up frequently through the night. She was brought to me sleeping at 7:45am. I laid her down, she slept solid through until I tried to wake her at 9am. She wouldn't wake despite my trying many, many times.

I took her temp and it's normal.

I am not really wanting this little girl to continue sleeping because then we'll end up with a struggle at nap time.

Um, a child was brought to you asleep and you cannot wake her? Yes, not only would I call for pickup, but I would be questioning the parent's story. You may just have a sleepy child, but you also may have a child with a head injury, or who has been drugged.
This would not be the first child who was "up all night" and got to be too much for a parent, or who was given medication to make them sleep so the parent could get some sleep.

[taylorw1210]

Um, a child was brought to you asleep and you cannot wake her? Yes, not only would I call for pickup, but I would be questioning the parent's story. You may just have a sleepy child, but you also may have a child with a head injury, or who has been drugged.
This would not be the first child who was "up all night" and got to be too much for a parent, or who was given medication to make them sleep so the parent could get some sleep.

She would wake, then go lay back down and fall to sleep - for about 30 minutes. She eventually stayed awake and all was well - we are now winding down for our normal nap time routine.

I didn't even think of the potential medicine use.

[Kabob]

Um, a child was brought to you asleep and you cannot wake her? Yes, not only would I call for pickup, but I would be questioning the parent's story. You may just have a sleepy child, but you also may have a child with a head injury, or who has been drugged.
This would not be the first child who was "up all night" and got to be too much for a parent, or who was given medication to make them sleep so the parent could get some sleep.

I was thinking the same thing. Next time I would say she is unable to participate in daycare activities and just send home and make a note of it...that would worry me...

[taylorw1210]

I was thinking the same thing. Next time I would say she is unable to participate in daycare activities and just send home and make a note of it...that would worry me...

I'm disappointed in myself that that didn't occur to me. DCM is a Family Support Counselor at a local early education school and I guess it never occurred to me because I couldn't imagine her doing something like that.

But with how difficult the dcg was to wake, for a long period of time.. let's just say it leaves a lot of room for suspicion...