Would You Take On This Family?

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    Would You Take On This Family?

    This is assuming that the interview goes well (big assumption, I know, but I don't want to waste anyone's time with an interview if I dont think I'm going to go through with it).

    Also, I logged off for the family's privacy.

    Family has two children. About two years ago, the father of one beat the father of the other. He is set to get out of jail Oct 1st. The mother has a Civil Protection Order.

    She's a single mother and I hate the idea that it's so hard to find childcare so she can work. She has already had others pass due to the background with the one father.
    But I also work out of my home, have children, and am pregnant.

    Would this be too much for you? Why or why not?
  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #2
    If I had a copy of the protective order on site and a cordless phone so that I could call 911 if the other father showed up, I would not have an issue enrolling the family.

    I've had similar situations in the past.

    Have the correct and necessary paperwork on file and have a plan in place in case he does show up.

    I would hope his stint in jail helped show him that HIS actions put him there and from now on, he is to be on his best behavior.

    Its a ****y situation for the mother to be in but it appears she has done what she is suppose to do by having a protection order placed on him.

    Bottom line, is it is up to you how well you think you could manage IF he did show up. Are the police close to you? Are your other DCKs big/old enough to act immediately if you tell them to go into another room? Are there neighbors close by you?

    ALL of those things would factor into my decision to enroll or not.

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    • Jazminsdaycare
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 62

      #3
      Why is she telling potential providers her private family information?

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      • Thriftylady
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 5884

        #4
        I may consider it, like BC said, I would want a proper plan in place and all the proper paperwork first.

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        • Shell
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 1765

          #5
          To be honest, yes, I would pass. If others have stayed away from this scenario, it might be more serious than you think. I am weary of letting drama into my house. It is your business, so you decide what you think is best for your family. :hug:

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #6
            Originally posted by Jazminsdaycare
            Why is she telling potential providers her private family information?
            Because if a parent shows up and there is no paperwork on site saying other wise, the provider has to allow the parent to take the child.

            It would be wise for DCM to make sure her provider knows and has this info.

            This isn't something I would consider private family info if you are enrolling your child into care.

            I mean, the provider can't go telling others about it but the parent has an obligation to tell the provider she places her child(ren) with.

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            • Unregistered

              #7
              Thank you, Black Cat.
              That's the reassurance I was hoping to find. She already said she would give me a copy of the CPO, as well as a picture of the man, just to be safe.
              I think I will go ahead and set up an interview. With the exception of one little guy (and he might just follow the others), if I used my stern voice and told my others to go to a certain location, I am confident that they would.

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              • Unregistered

                #8
                If I do enroll them, I will be talking with the local PD to find out what to expect from them (and what they would expect from me) if this guy does show up.
                Thanks, again.

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                • Thriftylady
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 5884

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jazminsdaycare
                  Why is she telling potential providers her private family information?
                  I agree with BlackCat on this one. It is the same as when I gave the school a copy of my protective order when my son was little and I was leaving my abusive ex. Otherwise, they would have let him leave the school with him and that could have ended really badly.

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                  • Cradle2crayons
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3642

                    #10
                    some things to think about also. Do you have the child of the father that's incarcerated in care? or the child of the victim?

                    If you have the child of the man who is incarcerated it could get sticky.

                    I wouldn't have an issue enrolling just be VERY sure her legal paperwork is in LEGAL order. Check the date on the CPO. Some states only issue them for a certain period of time. Check the EXACT terms on the CPO.

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                    • Unregistered

                      #11
                      I would have a child of both the man in jail and the victim.
                      She said the CPO is for 5 years, but I will verify the dates during the interview on Friday.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        I would have a child of both the man in jail and the victim.
                        She said the CPO is for 5 years, but I will verify the dates during the interview on Friday.
                        Make sure the CPO includes contact with the child.

                        If the order is just for mom, that means he can't have contact with the mom but doesn't exclude his child.

                        Usually providers need to have specific paperwork detailing WHEN and WHERE the non-custodial parent can see or have access to the child.

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                        • Cradle2crayons
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3642

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          I would have a child of both the man in jail and the victim.
                          She said the CPO is for 5 years, but I will verify the dates during the interview on Friday.
                          Yes, that was my concern also. Here, the CPO would only protect the VICTIM (the other kids dad). She couldn't get one unless she HERSELF was in danger.

                          Also, if the father didn't abuse or have a charge for anything he did to his OWN child, the CPO doesn't mean he can't have visitation with his son.

                          I'd ask the mom specifically about how visitation is going to work out when he gets out.

                          Generally just because he assaulted another adult, it doesn't negate his parental rights with his OWN child. So if that's the case, I'd be sure to get LEGAL documentation of what his visitation rights are and ask mom to address him coming to daycare to pick up with the judge at the same time.

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                          • renodeb
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 837

                            #14
                            Truthfully, I would probably Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!to many variables. Would love to know what happens though.

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                            • Unregistered

                              #15
                              There is a protection order for the mom and both children. She'll bring a copy to the interview.

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