DCM "I kept him up really late because I wanted to go out"

[permanentvacation]

"He's really tired and cranky... Have fun!"

Me (well, my thought) "REALLY LADY! If you purposely do something that puts your desire for fun ahead of your child's need for sleep, you need to stay home with your child the next day and pay for your fun night!"

[Shell]

Agreed! I had one that took their kids to some kind of show (granted it was a kid's show), but they didn't leave until 10 p.m. So when their 2 yr old arrives the next day, she was a disaster. Not fair to child, not fair to daycare provider

[Blackcat31]

"He's really tired and cranky... Have fun!"

Me (well, my thought) "REALLY LADY! If you purposely do something that puts your desire for fun ahead of your child's need for sleep, you need to stay home with your child the next day and pay for your fun night!"

I would have smiled really big and said "No problem DCM but please keep your phone handy because if he gets cranky or unmanageable during the day, I WILL be calling you for pick up"

Then smiled big.

Parents can do whatever they need to in order to make their lives easier and/or more manageable but it goes both ways.

Their actions do NOT have to include fall out on my time.

I have a couple DCM's that are similar. Almost ALL the issues they have with their kid(s) could be easily solved if they would just put the kids' needs ahead of their own.

[CedarCreek]

Agree with BC!

What the heck was Mom thinking? She couldn't have gotten a babysitter for a few hours?

[nannyde]

I love it when they say that. I just have the kid take a really long morning nap and athe regular pm nap.

Here mom... he's not tired now. He slept the day away. That worked out great. Are you going out tonight?

[Sugar Magnolia]

I'm confused. She kept him up late? So she could go out? Does that mean she left the child unattended.while she went out? Child sleeping means she leaves the house?

[CedarCreek]

I think she took him with her? Maybe not, that's how I read it.

[permanentvacation]

She wanted to go to the baseball game and took her son with her to see the game.

She has kept him up late many times to take her son (a 2 year old) out with her because she wanted to go out somewhere. The places she goes are places that are appropriate for a child to be, (not bars or anything like that) but they are so late at night that it affects the child tremendously due to lack of sleep. He comes in here at daycare the next day and is unbelievably hateful, screaming, crying, mean to everyone, etc. just completely ruins the daycare day for everyone here.

Then when I tell the family - a different family member picks him up every day- that he has been in trouble, harassed kids, was crying, screaming, etc. throughout the day, they tell the mother that I never have anything nice to say about him. So she told me she doesn't want me to tell them anything negative about the child.

So basically, it's that the mother is going to put her wants ahead of the child's needs and she doesn't want me to tell her or anyone who picks him up that his day was anything other than perfect.

[Naptime yet?]

I thought the game was cancelled last night because of all the rain?

[Unregistered]

Yep,I have a single mom here that keeps her little one out until one or two in the morning! The little girl would arrive at 7:30 a.m.,eat breakfast and go back to sleep until 11:30a.m.,I would wake her up,let her play for a bit,eat lunch and she would go back to sleep with the other kids at 1:00p.m. until her mom came and picked her up at 4:30p.m. It started to become a bad habit until I finally told her that she needs to sleep at night not during the day,it was interfering with her development.I told her I understood that she may want to hang out with friends but to still put her to bed wherever she was at around 8:00p.m. I have no problem telling parents how to do their job,sometimes it's the only way the child gets what they need.

[permanentvacation]

She went to the game the night before last. What 'game', I don't know. I don't watch sports. I don't even know what sports season it is right now. All I know about sports is that my daughter's school is starting soccer - because she just tried out for it. The daycare mom just said they went to 'the game'. I didn't and still don't care what game it was. I just care that she kept him up way too late - AGAIN - so she could enjoy something she wanted to do and then told me in a sarcastic voice to 'have fun' with him because she knew he was extremely tired and hateful. The child was tired and hateful all day yesterday. I was too busy dealing with him to post about it yesterday.

But like I said, it's not just about yesterday. The mom does this to the child - and me - and everyone else at daycare OFTEN. I just can't stand parents who put their wants before their kids needs especially on a regular basis. And I am getting really tired of bearing the blunt of her fun outings.

[permanentvacation]

Unregistered,

I've told the mother a few times that she needs to let him get proper sleep at night. She just does what she wants, not what she NEEDS to do for the child. The child has slept here almost all day MANY days. I will get in trouble with my supervisor if she comes and sees the child sleeping at the wrong time. Often when he sleeps in the morning, he won't sleep at the normal nap time and crawls all over the floor, harasses the other kids, makes all kinds of noises, etc. I have actually changed nap time and put every one down for morning nap a few times. The mother keeping him up random nights just completely messes up everyone's day here.

But the mother doesn't care or want to hear about it.

[Crazy8]

I would just respond with "oh good, it will be such a quiet day since I'm sure little Johnny will need to sleep all day".

Ok, I probably wouldn't say that, but I'd want to!

[permanentvacation]

I've let him sleep all day mainly because I couldn't keep him awake and also because I thought it would keep him up that night so she would realize that she messed his sleep schedule up. But she has NEVER complained about him not sleeping that night after he slept all day here. So I guess he just sleeps all day here and all night that night because he's so tired from being up the night before. I think it really only negatively affects me here at daycare.

But some days he doesn't sleep and is just hateful with everyone. It's just a big mess here at daycare when she keeps him up at night.

[TheGoodLife]

Does your contract exclude for behavior? I'd let her know it is not OK in a group setting, and if he is not able to participate in regular scheduled activities she will need to pick up. If she knows he cannot handle being up so late- let it fall on her.