How Old Is The Oldest You Have Had A Non Special Needs Child In Diapers?

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  • helpfullion

    #16
    Originally posted by daycare
    the oldest I ever had in diapers was 5.3 years old. The family claimed that the child had "genetic laziness"

    I termed............
    Is there a story here? at 5.3 did he tell you if he needed a change? why had the family not tryed potty training?

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    • TwinKristi
      Family Childcare Provider
      • Aug 2013
      • 2390

      #17
      I have an almost 3yr old who is big for his age but could be considered special needs? He had some sensory and verbal/physical/cognitive developmental delays but very capable in many other areas just seems to lack the cause-effect, sequence type connection in his brain. I had an almost 3yr old who didn't have any delays, just lazy/busy mom. We did it pretty quickly before going to preschool when he was 2y9m-ish?
      My own oldest kids (twins) were 4... the rest all trained really easily and with lots of determination just after 2!

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      • Play Care
        Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 6642

        #18
        My sis is in the early camp, and her kids took forever to fully potty train. Sure, they used the potty, but if anything took them off schedule, like a vacation, they were peein' all over the place again.
        I am not in the early or late camp - I feel I'm in the "just right" camp::
        The one child that I had who "potty trained" the earliest has the most accidents of any child I've ever had...Dad pushed and I wasn't thrilled. She was a little over 2. I still have to remind her to use the bathroom throughout the day (she's 4!)
        I usually wait until the child is close to 3 or newly turned 3 - potty training rarely takes more than a week and we are in underwear by Friday. The last child I potty trained - he had just turned 3 but was reluctant to use the potty. Actually would tell me he didn't want to use it. So I did my "just sit on the potty for a few minutes while I get your diaper ready" routine. He peed one the potty and was done with diapers. Never had an accident again. I feel as though had I listened to him and didn't put him on the potty, he would still be happily going in diapers.
        There is a world of difference between forcing a child and gentle encouragement.

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        • Rachel
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 605

          #19
          Around here to go to public pre-k they are supposed to be trained. Because the cutoff date is December, that means the kids are between 2 years 9 months and 3 years 8 months. Many kids train in August when there is vacation from daycare.

          I'm in the earlier camp and my kids were all trained by 3. The twins were the latest about 2 months before they turned 3, and their younger sister was not even 2 (they are 17 months apart and a few months after the twins trained she wanted to be like them). My son I trained the August he was 2.5 and he had a year before starting pre-k (Feb b-day and missed the cutoff). Not sure what to do with ds who will be 2 Aug. 1. On one hand he's still a bit young, on the other, I don't want to leave it until the last minute. I finish working Aug. 3rd and then my parents are coming to visit. After that I have about a week before back to work so I might give it a shot. If not... I'll take a long weekend in the winter.

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          • nannyde
            All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
            • Mar 2010
            • 7320

            #20
            Originally posted by CedarCreek
            This particular "expectation" is subject to change with each child. Every child is different. I would not force a child to potty train who isn't ready. What good does it do them? What good does it do the provider?

            I've seen many threads about providers who get irritated over parents who want potty train too early. They don't want to deal with the mess, they feel that the child isn't ready and that it makes the child feel bad to have so many accidents.

            So, I'm confused as to why this seems to be viewed in such a "black and white" way.
            I don't think it's that complicated. I don't want pee and poop on my floor and equipment. I don't want to pay for staff time that costs WAY more than diapers to train a kid who is not ready.

            I renovated my playroom before I moved out of my house. When we pulled the carpet it had two stains. I did daycare in that room for twelve years and had two accidents. That is a phenomenal record and shows I know how to train and NOT have accidents.
            http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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            • TaylorTots
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 609

              #21
              Originally posted by nannyde
              I don't think it's that complicated. I don't want pee and poop on my floor and equipment. I don't want to pay for staff time that costs WAY more than diapers to train a kid who is not ready.

              I renovated my playroom before I moved out of my house. When we pulled the carpet it had two stains. I did daycare in that room for twelve years and had two accidents. That is a phenomenal record and shows I know how to train and NOT have accidents.



              The oldest I have had is 3 1/2.

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              • cheerfuldom
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 7413

                #22
                3.5 and that is my own kids. My cut off is 3 for daycare kids. I just cant handle changing diapers on a big kid and I have had several BIG kids at daycare. My friends have a 2.5 year old that is 40 lbs and untrained and I have had some bigger kids like that. Its too much for me.

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                • CedarCreek
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1600

                  #23
                  Originally posted by nannyde
                  I don't think it's that complicated. I don't want pee and poop on my floor and equipment. I don't want to pay for staff time that costs WAY more than diapers to train a kid who is not ready.

                  I renovated my playroom before I moved out of my house. When we pulled the carpet it had two stains. I did daycare in that room for twelve years and had two accidents. That is a phenomenal record and shows I know how to train and NOT have accidents.


                  With my own kids, accidents were few and far between. My oldest (who is special needs) wasn't potty trained until he was 5. My youngest (who is not) was over 3.

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                  • mamamanda
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 1128

                    #24
                    Personally, I'd rather change a diaper than clean my couch or floor. I typically just support what parents are doing at home, but I will not attempt to potty train a child whose parents are not 100% on board. Did that once and it was the worst 6 months of potty training I've ever done. Every Monday and Tuesday, dcg peed all over my stuff constantly. Wed-Fri she was back in routine and having no accidents. Went home for the weekend and I had to start over again every Monday. She was 3.5. I've never had one still in diapers at 4 though. My own son potty trained really early, but only because he initiated it. He was literally the kid who told me when he needed a diaper change at 15 months old. I'm sure you probably don't believe me, but he did. He asked for a new diaper at his dr's appt and the nurse practitioner's jaw dropped. She said, "You know that's not common, right?" I waited a few months to start potty training b/c he just seemed so young, but at 21 months I figured why not and put him in underwear. He was done before his 2nd birthday and I don't think we've even had an accident, poop or pee since he was 2 years 2 months. I say it just depends completely on the child.

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                    • daycare
                      Advanced Daycare.com *********
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 16259

                      #25
                      Originally posted by helpfullion
                      Is there a story here? at 5.3 did he tell you if he needed a change? why had the family not tryed potty training?
                      nope he did not tell me.

                      the family was a wreck. lazy, young and just did not do what they needed.

                      no one cared at home so the kid didn't either

                      I believe that there was some kind of discipline involved when the kid did have accidents at home so there was a lot of negative association with PT at home which carried over to DC. kid was PT so there was no point in me trying if the family was not trying

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                      • helpfullion

                        #26
                        Originally posted by daycare
                        nope he did not tell me.

                        the family was a wreck. lazy, young and just did not do what they needed.

                        no one cared at home so the kid didn't either

                        I believe that there was some kind of discipline involved when the kid did have accidents at home so there was a lot of negative association with PT at home which carried over to DC. kid was PT so there was no point in me trying if the family was not trying
                        So I'm curious at 5 shouldn't kids have some form of muscle control over when they go to the bathroom? I thought after two years of age they had "control" it was more of a mental thing not wanting to use the toilet and a little physical at least with pee or am I wrong?

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                        • daycare
                          Advanced Daycare.com *********
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 16259

                          #27
                          Originally posted by helpfullion
                          So I'm curious at 5 shouldn't kids have some form of muscle control over when they go to the bathroom? I thought after two years of age they had "control" it was more of a mental thing not wanting to use the toilet and a little physical at least with pee or am I wrong?
                          if no one ever showed the kid to go pee some where else besides the toilet and it was OK to go in your pants then kids will just do what they know.

                          I have had a few kids that have said I don't feel like wearing diapers anymore I want to go in the toilet, but this kid was not one of those.

                          I don't know if there was anything medically wrong with the child. The reason I termed was that I told the parents at this age the child needed to be seen by his doc to determine if there was a medical reason he was not PT. They refused so I termed.

                          BTW this child was the size of a 7 year old, weight about 55lbs, so now way was I going to change a diaper of a child of that size unless there was a medical issue.

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                          • lilmonkeys
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 11

                            #28
                            I have a boy that turn 4 in April this year. he just started today. he isn't potty trained and is about the size of almost a 6 year old. he barely talks and when I ask if he has to go potty he cries and says no. I tell him we need to change him he cries and says no. I don't want to leave him in a wet diaper all day ( yes diapers, not even pullups), but I also don't want to forcefully change him and make the whole situation uncomfortable.
                            any suggestions

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                            • BarbInMich
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 11

                              #29
                              I have one little guy whose mom says he is fully potty trained at home and even wears underwear for naps. Here, he will only use the potty once in a while.

                              The mom wants him to wear underwear here and she says he won't wet or poop in them. I've heard that one before from previous parents and will not fall for it again.

                              My policy is they have to go 2 weeks here with a dry diaper all day - no accidents - and then we can try underwear. If, during that two weeks, they have an accident, we start the 2 weeks over. And we don't do pull-ups - IMO, they are useless.

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                              • Unregistered

                                #30
                                I train kids early and I just don't feel bad about it. I know it's a heated topic but a 3 year old in diapers is just not happening at my house :/ I absolutely will not change a diaper after the 3rd birthday and miraculously, every single family gets the kid potty trained by then. No accidents, no trauma, they just go on the potty.

                                Honestly, I'm start pushing for training at 2y3m and I get progressively more pushy as they get near 2y9m. At that point I have the "I will have to term if we can't get this done" chat and parents always get things rolling then.
                                I love these kids to death, I'm a peaceful parent, I run a great program, I'm loving and compassionate but I firmly and completely believe that children are ready to be potty trained by 3rd birthday at the absolute latest. After that, its parent laziness. And there's nothing wrong with parent laziness sometimes! I'm lazy about brushing my kids teeth. I skip it at least 2x a week because I'm lazy. Lol so I get t.

                                But when their parent laziness causes me to haul a nearly three year old onto a changing pad, I'm not a happy camper.

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