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  • KidGrind
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 1099

    #16
    They are trying to gain control of your business.

    They want employees under the pretense of independent contractors/business owners.

    I am going through this right now (with another entity).

    “You are not a teacher, never tell the parents you’ll teach them anything.”


    Months later…


    “We have a great program Teaching Strategies GOLD and when you have time; sign-in and complete a few modules on your own time.”

    Today….

    “How many modules have you completely? Your lesson plans need to be approved through Teaching Strategies GOLD! I’ll have to put not met on your inspection.”



    RUN! RUN! RUN!

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    • Unregistered

      #17
      Not true at all, HeadStart is Great!!!

      Hello i'm A Family case worker for the Early Head Start Child Care Partnership Program in Buffalo N.Y. and I love the New EHS-CCPP. In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids. If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start. We will pay the difference so you can raise the salary of your teachers, because most family, centers and /or group daycare are only paying their staff minimum wage, this will also allow you to hire better teachers (all headstart teacher must be certified in child care and we will pay for them to get that accreditation if they do not have it). We will rehabilitate your facility so it's safer and more child friendly(building a gate in the back yard, redoing your floor, laying carpet, fixing and supplying appliances, putting soft rubbery material out side where most would have the kids playing on concrete). Our goal is to partner with daycares in poverty stricken area codes. So yes we service families that are in need. As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job. Oh yeah...If the parent loses there subsidy because they received a better job then Headstart will cover the child-care for the rest of the year. Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one. Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement. Oh yeah did i mention that we supply diapers and wipes (formula, if your center does not participate in the food program). We will supply you with cubbies, toys and puppets and other equipment that goes along with our curriculum. We will even install a second sink seeing as though that many Daycares are washing, hand changing diapers, washing dishes and preparing food out of the same sink. I have visited some daycare where they keep the kids in the basement and the basement actually looks like a basement. While the owners lives upstart in luxury in the rest of the home. Yes there is more paper work, but most of the paperwork is some thing that should have been done before even partnering with headstart. like taking attendance, health records, assessments, inspections, daily progress notes and other things that come with child care.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Hello i'm A Family case worker for the Early Head Start Child Care Partnership Program in Buffalo N.Y. and I love the New EHS-CCPP. In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids. If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start. We will pay the difference so you can raise the salary of your teachers, because most family, centers and /or group daycare are only paying their staff minimum wage, this will also allow you to hire better teachers (all headstart teacher must be certified in child care and we will pay for them to get that accreditation if they do not have it). We will rehabilitate your facility so it's safer and more child friendly(building a gate in the back yard, redoing your floor, laying carpet, fixing and supplying appliances, putting soft rubbery material out side where most would have the kids playing on concrete). Our goal is to partner with daycares in poverty stricken area codes. So yes we service families that are in need. As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job. Oh yeah...If the parent loses there subsidy because they received a better job then Headstart will cover the child-care for the rest of the year. Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one. Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement. Oh yeah did i mention that we supply diapers and wipes (formula, if your center does not participate in the food program). We will supply you with cubbies, toys and puppets and other equipment that goes along with our curriculum. We will even install a second sink seeing as though that many Daycares are washing, hand changing diapers, washing dishes and preparing food out of the same sink. I have visited some daycare where they keep the kids in the basement and the basement actually looks like a basement. While the owners lives upstart in luxury in the rest of the home. Yes there is more paper work, but most of the paperwork is some thing that should have been done before even partnering with headstart. like taking attendance, health records, assessments, inspections, daily progress notes and other things that come with child care.
        :dislike: Way to bash home daycares.

        As an EX employee of Head Start, I find VERY little of what you said to be true.

        As a matter of fact, my standards in my own independently operated family child care are MUCH higher than the standards followed by Head Start.

        Head Start is a multi-billion dollar failure that does nothing more than a good quality in home family child care provider can do. Just ask the Federal government who conducted the study itself.

        In 2008, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) completed data collection for its third-grade follow-up study of Head Start, a federal preschool program designed to improve the kindergarten readiness of low-income children. Four years later, just before Christmas, the agency finally published the results of the congressionally mandated evaluation. The report’s publication date reads October 2012, meaning the final product sat at HHS for two months before being released.

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        • Play Care
          Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 6642

          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered
          Hello i'm A Family case worker for the Early Head Start Child Care Partnership Program in Buffalo N.Y. and I love the New EHS-CCPP. In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids.
          If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start. We will pay the difference so you can raise the salary of your teachers, because most family, centers and /or group daycare are only paying their staff minimum wage, this will also allow you to hire better teachers (all headstart teacher must be certified in child care and we will pay for them to get that accreditation if they do not have it). We will rehabilitate your facility so it's safer and more child friendly(building a gate in the back yard, redoing your floor, laying carpet, fixing and supplying appliances, putting soft rubbery material out side where most would have the kids playing on concrete). Our goal is to partner with daycares in poverty stricken area codes. So yes we service families that are in need. As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job. Oh yeah...If the parent loses there subsidy because they received a better job then Headstart will cover the child-care for the rest of the year. Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one. Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement. Oh yeah did i mention that we supply diapers and wipes (formula, if your center does not participate in the food program). We will supply you with cubbies, toys and puppets and other equipment that goes along with our curriculum. We will even install a second sink seeing as though that many Daycares are washing, hand changing diapers, washing dishes and preparing food out of the same sink. I have visited some daycare where they keep the kids in the basement and the basement actually looks like a basement. While the owners lives upstart in luxury in the rest of the home. Yes there is more paper work, but most of the paperwork is some thing that should have been done before even partnering with headstart. like taking attendance, health records, assessments, inspections, daily progress notes and other things that come with child care.
          Um, wow. Such ignorance.

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          • Leigh
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3814

            #20
            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            :dislike: Way to bash home daycares.

            As an EX employee of Head Start, I find VERY little of what you said to be true.

            As a matter of fact, my standards in my own independently operated family child care are MUCH higher than the standards followed by Head Start.

            Head Start is a multi-billion dollar failure that does nothing more than a good quality in home family child care provider can do. Just ask the Federal government who conducted the study itself.

            http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...nally-released


            I had a 3.5 year old come to me from head start this spring. She was MILES behind my daycare kids in learning. Couldn't count to 10, didn't know ABC's, spoke in baby talk (her needs to go pee pee). The three's at my place are working on phonics and sight words, while the head start kid couldn't identify more than 6 letters. Head Start CLAIMED that she knew these things, but she did not. Formal early education like Head Start is not developmentally appropriate, in my opinion, and the Head Start kids I have seen are behind academically and socially.

            Also, my kids' caregiver can use words like STANDARDS and THEIR and THERE appropriately.

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            • Play Care
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 6642

              #21
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              :dislike: Way to bash home daycares.

              As an EX employee of Head Start, I find VERY little of what you said to be true.

              As a matter of fact, my standards in my own independently operated family child care are MUCH higher than the standards followed by Head Start.

              Head Start is a multi-billion dollar failure that does nothing more than a good quality in home family child care provider can do. Just ask the Federal government who conducted the study itself.

              http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...nally-released
              Right!
              I find it amusing that the poster then goes on to mention the *basic* New York licensing standards, nothing really "extra" except taxpayer money to supply things no provider should not be allowed to start without anyway (and there are grants either through CCR&R or CSEA) As a licensed in home, I already have to have material under my play set (which I did before it was mandated) I already have to have age appropriate curriculum (which, as a former preschool teacher I had from day 1) TV has never been condoned by licensing and the new regs go further with it (I've been screen free since day 1, so not an issue for me) I don't take infants but I've been pretty vocal about my feelings on "container babies" (and I'm fairly sure walkers aren't permitted by licensing) I already take attendance, do daily health checks, drills, etc etc etc My assistant has a BA and taught Kindegarten ( higher education level than Head Start asst). I pay over minimum wage (and I know our Head Start has assistants making NY min wage because I've read the job advertisments) my neighbor is a lead teacher at Head Start and maybe clear 30,000 a year. I easily double that. Why would I want to go from being a business owner who sets my own policies, hours, days off to become a Head Start employee? What a step backwards.

              I see *nothing* that Head Start could offer that I don't already have and provide for my families. But most of my clients are educated professionals who wouldn't want their kids involved with Head Start anyway. As one mom said to me "I wouldn't send my DOG to head start"
              They chose an in home provider because they want an in home service. And frankly many of them are becoming more and more disgusted with licensing and choosing to use unlicenesed care or families over licensed as it is.

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              • Play Care
                Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 6642

                #22
                Oh! I did remember one thing that our local Head Start has that I don't -

                Scabies and head lice.

                But I refuse to start offering those ::::::

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Play Care
                  Oh! I did remember one thing that our local Head Start has that I don't -

                  Scabies and head lice.

                  But I refuse to start offering those ::::::
                  I literally just snorted my coffee.... :: ::

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                  • Hopefull
                    New Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1

                    #24
                    Unregistered you have made some assumptions which are frankly inappropriate and insulting.

                    You said:"In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids. If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start."

                    In this comment you assume the wonderful men and women here who run home daycares do not truly care about the children left in their care. This is very far from the truth.


                    You said: "As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job."

                    These folks have their own bushiness already.

                    You said: "Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement."

                    This is so far from the truth and so very condescending. You assume that all these wonderful providers do is sit the kid in front a TV and let them do as they choose. What they do is provide the children in their care a rich environment to learn. They help them and teach them what they need to know for the future.


                    So unregistered before you go insulting these fine people how about you learn to be a bit kinder to these people. Just because they have had different experience than you doesn't make what they have seen less valid.

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                    • Thriftylady
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 5884

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered
                      Hello i'm A Family case worker for the Early Head Start Child Care Partnership Program in Buffalo N.Y. and I love the New EHS-CCPP. In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids. If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start. We will pay the difference so you can raise the salary of your teachers, because most family, centers and /or group daycare are only paying their staff minimum wage, this will also allow you to hire better teachers (all headstart teacher must be certified in child care and we will pay for them to get that accreditation if they do not have it). We will rehabilitate your facility so it's safer and more child friendly(building a gate in the back yard, redoing your floor, laying carpet, fixing and supplying appliances, putting soft rubbery material out side where most would have the kids playing on concrete). Our goal is to partner with daycares in poverty stricken area codes. So yes we service families that are in need. As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job. Oh yeah...If the parent loses there subsidy because they received a better job then Headstart will cover the child-care for the rest of the year. Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one. Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement. Oh yeah did i mention that we supply diapers and wipes (formula, if your center does not participate in the food program). We will supply you with cubbies, toys and puppets and other equipment that goes along with our curriculum. We will even install a second sink seeing as though that many Daycares are washing, hand changing diapers, washing dishes and preparing food out of the same sink. I have visited some daycare where they keep the kids in the basement and the basement actually looks like a basement. While the owners lives upstart in luxury in the rest of the home. Yes there is more paper work, but most of the paperwork is some thing that should have been done before even partnering with headstart. like taking attendance, health records, assessments, inspections, daily progress notes and other things that come with child care.
                      Wow, I don't think any of the providers here falls into the picture you paint. Do you really treat the providers you visit this way? If so one visit from you and I would count HS out if I hadn't already. Not to mention, my DD went to a head start and at the time I didn't know what it was really supposed to be. What it ended up being was the same thing I offered in my daycare, open ended play. Not that it hurt her, but it didn't really give her a "head start" either.

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                      • spedmommy4
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 935

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        Hello i'm A Family case worker for the Early Head Start Child Care Partnership Program in Buffalo N.Y. and I love the New EHS-CCPP. In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids. If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start. We will pay the difference so you can raise the salary of your teachers, because most family, centers and /or group daycare are only paying their staff minimum wage, this will also allow you to hire better teachers (all headstart teacher must be certified in child care and we will pay for them to get that accreditation if they do not have it). We will rehabilitate your facility so it's safer and more child friendly(building a gate in the back yard, redoing your floor, laying carpet, fixing and supplying appliances, putting soft rubbery material out side where most would have the kids playing on concrete). Our goal is to partner with daycares in poverty stricken area codes. So yes we service families that are in need. As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job. Oh yeah...If the parent loses there subsidy because they received a better job then Headstart will cover the child-care for the rest of the year. Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one. Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement. Oh yeah did i mention that we supply diapers and wipes (formula, if your center does not participate in the food program). We will supply you with cubbies, toys and puppets and other equipment that goes along with our curriculum. We will even install a second sink seeing as though that many Daycares are washing, hand changing diapers, washing dishes and preparing food out of the same sink. I have visited some daycare where they keep the kids in the basement and the basement actually looks like a basement. While the owners lives upstart in luxury in the rest of the home. Yes there is more paper work, but most of the paperwork is some thing that should have been done before even partnering with headstart. like taking attendance, health records, assessments, inspections, daily progress notes and other things that come with child care.
                        No. Just no. Maybe in your area but not here. I have a masters degree in early childhood special education. I am a licensed early childhood special educator in the state of California. I left the field of teaching to get away from No Child Left Behind and all the other new government nonsense that claims to help kids but is not.

                        Head Start just started the fcc "partership" here and I was thrilled because they seemed to offer so much support for kids with special needs. I am a tier 5 (highest level of quality) inclusive program. I called them and invited them out. They asked me to make a series of improvements to my yard, at my expense. I did. They inspected again and requested more improvements. I made them, at my expense.

                        After all this the Head Start representative said, and by the way you have to cap your program enrollment at 12. What? 75% of my kids are part time. I have been open for a year and rarely get calls for full time kids. If I capped my enrollment, I would have to close my doors. Head Start would not compensate me enough extra to make up the loss of income.

                        To boot, capping enrollment does nothing to improve the quality of my program. I maintain a 6:1 ratio. I never have more than one under 12 months, or one between the ages of 12-23 months.

                        In California, the cost of doing business is astronomical. If Head Start truly wants to partner with family childcares, they need to take into consideration that we are for profit businesses. I love working with kids and I wouldn't have gone to college for 8 years if I didn't have a passion for what I do. But, I can't operate at a loss to prove that passion. That is an unreasonable expectation for Head Start to have.

                        And yes, I did share my experience and concerns with the local Head Start grantee. They were ignored.

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                        • nannyde
                          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7320

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Hello i'm A Family case worker for the Early Head Start Child Care Partnership Program in Buffalo N.Y. and I love the New EHS-CCPP. In our defense i will say that it depends on your passion for the kids. If you truly want to raise your standers then i would suggest partnering with head start. We will pay the difference so you can raise the salary of your teachers, because most family, centers and /or group daycare are only paying their staff minimum wage, this will also allow you to hire better teachers (all headstart teacher must be certified in child care and we will pay for them to get that accreditation if they do not have it). We will rehabilitate your facility so it's safer and more child friendly(building a gate in the back yard, redoing your floor, laying carpet, fixing and supplying appliances, putting soft rubbery material out side where most would have the kids playing on concrete). Our goal is to partner with daycares in poverty stricken area codes. So yes we service families that are in need. As a Family Partner i will do home-visits with the family and walk them though completing there goals such as getting there GED going back to college, starting there own business, or getting a better job. Oh yeah...If the parent loses there subsidy because they received a better job then Headstart will cover the child-care for the rest of the year. Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one. Your curriculum will also have to change. That means no more leaving babies sitting in high chairs and walkers and cribs all day. No more Television either, unless it apart of the curriculum. That means no more sitting in front of the TV watching frozen, Disney cartoons or PBS either. Teacher are going to have to get on the floor with the babies and engage them 100% of the time. The curriculum will allow the kids to receive more physical action and human engagement. Oh yeah did i mention that we supply diapers and wipes (formula, if your center does not participate in the food program). We will supply you with cubbies, toys and puppets and other equipment that goes along with our curriculum. We will even install a second sink seeing as though that many Daycares are washing, hand changing diapers, washing dishes and preparing food out of the same sink. I have visited some daycare where they keep the kids in the basement and the basement actually looks like a basement. While the owners lives upstart in luxury in the rest of the home. Yes there is more paper work, but most of the paperwork is some thing that should have been done before even partnering with headstart. like taking attendance, health records, assessments, inspections, daily progress notes and other things that come with child care.
                          Ahem

                          Maybe you Head Start folks need to fix up your own house before you come knocking on our door.

                          Have you spent a moment looking at your abysmal track record when it comes to academic outcomes of your kids?

                          Head Start is a social program. At least that's what they stomp and shout when their kids are tested by someone who doesn't have a monkey in their circus. Why in the world would Head Start want to turn home providers into successful educational machines when you don't have any experience in your own program? Why in the world would we partner with you if education outcomes were our goal. I would rather partner with an online computer program than Head Start.

                          Seriously, please please look at your outcomes. I promise you my outcomes exceed yours by leaps and bounds.
                          http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                          • mommyneedsadayoff
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 1754

                            #28
                            Never partnered with headstart, but my son went to one for about 3 days before I pulled him. Too many kids, no structure, the teachers were just plain weird. It left me feeling off when I would drop him off. After the third day of finding them outside at pick up in 90 degree heat with no shade and no water, I asked if this was the normal routine, because I was told to go to his classroom for pick up and since it is so hot outside and the kids are pink and just standing around, it didn't seem good to have them outside. The teacher laughed at me and said "as long as the sun is out, we are outside!". I have done daycare for years and I would never keep young kids out in direct sun in 90 degree heat. None of them were playing, just standing around waiting to be picked up and my son would have bad headaches (he is heat sensitive) after we got home and just lay around. He said he liked going out side int he morning, because it wasn;t so hot, but he would rather play with all the cool blocks and toys, but the teacher doesn't want them to make a mess, so they have to go outside. Anyway, none of it sat well with me, so we quit and I have never regretted it I heard a lot of bad stuff about it after we quit, so I my mom instincts paid off!

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                            • Annalee
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 5864

                              #29
                              The only thing I could say about Headstart would be negative:: AND it is NOT in the best interest of FCC to partner with them. Need I say more?

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                              • Gemma
                                Childcare Provider
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 1277

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered
                                Each child in your center will receive constant developmental screenings and if they are not developed at the appropriate level then specialist will come out and work with them one on one.
                                :dislike::dislike:
                                This right here is my issue with HS!

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